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Old 12-04-2019, 02:03 PM
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Meditate regens ~21 mana per tick at 60

One tick is 6 seconds, 10 ticks per minute, 600 ticks per hour

Manastone regens 20 mana instantly, at a cost of 60 hp, in the old world only


A manastone camp is, very conservatively, 30 hours.

In 30 hours, you can meditate 378,000 mana

To get 378,000 mana from a manastone, you need to click that manastone 18,900 times, and that's just to break even with your hours spent camping it.


Fuck that camp and fuck that item, not worth the effort.
This ramps up to 30,000+ clicks with a less conservative expected camp time.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:00 AM
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70 total hours for Rubi bp.

I could have tried 12 hours at a time til I got one like John did but I decided to test the limits of my neckbeard.

These are in the game until May.

You can kill every raid mob in the game without them.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:03 AM
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30 minute respawn, 5% chance of dropping, you do the math. It should be about 1 drop per 2 days, so something like 75 stones total will drop per server until the patch. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:20 PM
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30 minute respawn, 5% chance of dropping, you do the math. It should be about 1 drop per 2 days, so something like 75 stones total will drop per server until the patch. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
28 minute respawn. So in one day (24 hours), there will be approx. 51 EEs (24*60/28). At a 5% drop rate, this is 0.05*51 = 2.57 manastones per day.

As for the OP comment, there is a slight chance that a stone does not drop in any 53 hour period. The calculation is (1-0.05)^(53*60/28) = 0.00295 = 0.3% chance.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:25 PM
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28 minute respawn. So in one day (24 hours), there will be approx. 51 EEs (24*60/28). At a 5% drop rate, this is 0.05*51 = 2.57 manastones per day.

As for the OP comment, there is a slight chance that a stone does not drop in any 53 hour period. The calculation is (1-0.05)^(53*60/28) = 0.00295 = 0.3% chance.
spawn rate is closer to 50-50 than 60%

at least from whats been reported, is it confirmed 60% spawn chance?

certainly never felt THAT common, many times 4+ hours of only frogs.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:42 PM
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spawn rate is closer to 50-50 than 60%

at least from whats been reported, is it confirmed 60% spawn chance?

certainly never felt THAT common, many times 4+ hours of only frogs.
I was assuming the "5%" took that into consideration. If there is a 60% spawn with a 5% drop, then we should be using something closer to 3%. However, from everyone continuously being on the /list, I've been told that about 2 stones drop per day. So I'm guessing the 5% takes into consideration the 50 or 60% spawn chance.

It may be that it is 60% with an 8% drop rate. This produces a 4.8% probability of a stone every 28 minutes, which is really close to the 5% stated earlier.

Can anyone produce better spawn and/or drop rates?
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:45 PM
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I was assuming the "5%" took that into consideration. If there is a 60% spawn with a 5% drop, then we should be using something closer to 3%. However, from everyone continuously being on the /list, I've been told that about 2 stones drop per day. So I'm guessing the 5% takes into consideration the 50 or 60% spawn chance.

It may be that it is 60% with an 8% drop rate. This produces a 4.8% probability of a stone every 28 minutes, which is really close to the 5% stated earlier.

Can anyone produce better spawn and/or drop rates?
theres a couple data points for you in here

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=342763
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:09 AM
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The manastone drop rate here is not classic.

Don't care enough anymore to go after it and it's too late.

I could beard one before I could find more evidence other than what was already found that it should be "uncommon but not rare".
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:24 AM
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New record. How is this even possible? EE just went 53 hours with no stone. Factor in the time on the /list and omg....omg....omg.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:41 PM
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I dunno why they took all of the most troublesome camps for rare items.... AND THEN made it even MORE of an insane camp.

"Hmmm, this camp will be dominated by neckbeards.....obviously the only way to make this fair is to require staying up for 48+ hours, so everyone has a chance".

...................

Why not just make it a rare random drop anywhere in the zone? This list thing and SUPER reducing the drop rate is actually completely insane.
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