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Old 08-26-2016, 05:51 PM
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^ridiculous.

Anyone that tells you what you can wear anywhere is fucked imo. Not defending muslims and their burkinis, I'm defending common sense. I think they should round all the muslims up and ship their asses out because their religious is fundamentally dangerous and irreconcilable with most western idealogies, but people should be able to wear whatever the fuck they want, anywhere they want to.
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Old 08-26-2016, 07:27 PM
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^ridiculous.

Anyone that tells you what you can wear anywhere is fucked imo. (...) people should be able to wear whatever the fuck they want, anywhere they want to.
You know it's not that simple.

Plenty of businesses have a dress code for example. It actually happened in france when a muslim woman was hired to care for young children. She started to wear a full islamic veil and refused to take it down when asked to, so she was fired. She went to court and lost, because laicity (in france at least) is not applicable in private businesses.

The school thing is different, it's pretty much tied to how we consider school in france. i'm not gonna talk about the history of the republican school, but basically it's supposed to be the place where origin, wealth or religion shouldn't matter. Universities have a higher degree of independance, and some allow to wear muslim scarf or kippas, etc.

As far as i'm concerned, i don't care if someone working in an office on the phone/computer all the time wears a hijab or some fucking flipflops. But when you actually have to deal with customers, businesses have every right to ask you to respect a certain dress code.

The beach thing is fucking dumb. A beach is a public place, and you should be able to wear anything you want. As long of course as it's respecting laws about decency, etc. (and even that, it's pretty lax in france lol.. boobs out everywhere and nobody cries about it)

The whole thing is just a way for the french right to get some public attention. I never ever saw a burkini in my whole life, and i live 30 mins away from one of the nicest beach in france. I also never saw any burqa, saw some hijabs, but not much. I went to school with a girl that used to wear a scarf over her hair, but could still see ears and neck. 99,9% of arab girls i see in the streets are definitely like that left one.

But yeah, unemployment, economic growth, etc.. let's not talk about that. Let's talk about what women wear. After all presidential elections are next year, gotta instill the fear of the foreign in the elector's heart. (does that remind you of anything..? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )
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Old 08-26-2016, 07:36 PM
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You know it's not that simple.




יש שפע של עסקי קוד לבוש למשל. זה באמת קרה בצרפת כאשר אישה מוסלמית נשכרה לטפל בילדים צעירים. היא התחילה ללבוש כיסוי אסלאמי מלא וסירב לקחת אותו כאשר ביקש, אז פוטרה. היא הלכה לבית המשפט לאיבוד, כי laicity (בצרפת לפחות) אינו ישים בעסקים פרטיים.

דבר הספר שונה, זה פחות או יותר קשור לאופן שבו אנו רואים ספר בצרפת. אני לא הולך לדבר על ההיסטוריה של בית הספר הרפובליקני, אבל בעצם זה אמור להיות המקום שבו ממוצא, עושר או דת צריך לא משנה. יש אוניברסיטות רמה גבוהה יותר של עצמאות, וחלק לאפשר ללבוש צעיף או כיפות מוסלמיים, וכו '

ככל שזה נוגע לי, לא אכפת לי אם מישהו עובד במשרד בטלפון / מחשב כל הזמן לובש חיג'אב או כפכפים מזוינים. אבל כשאתה באמת צריך להתמודד עם לקוחות, יש עסקים כל זכות לבקש ממך לכבד קוד לבוש מסוים.

דבר החוף הוא מזיין מטומטם. חוף הוא במקום ציבורי, ואתה אמור להיות מסוגל ללבוש מה שאתה רוצה. כל עוד כמובן כפי שהוא כיבוד חוקים על הגינות, וכו '(וגם זה, זה די רופף בצרפת חחח .. ציצים החוצה בכל מקום ואף אחד לא בוכים על זה)

כל העניין הוא רק דרך הימין הצרפתי כדי לקבל קצת תשומת לב הציבור. אף פעם בחיים לא ראיתי burkini בכל ימי חיי, ואני גר במרחק 30 דקות מאחת החוף הכי יפה בצרפת. אני גם אף פעם לא ראיתי כל הבורקה, רואה כמה חיג'אב, אבל לא בהרבה. הלכתי לבית הספר עם בחורה כי נהגה ללבוש צעיף על השערה, אבל עדיין יכול לראות אוזניים וצוואר. 99,9% של נערות ערביות אני רואה ברחובות הם בהחלט כמו [URL = "http://i.imgur.com/GzksG8V.jpg"] שהותירה אחד. [/ URL]

אבל כן, אבטלה, צמיחה כלכלית, וכו '.. בואו לא נדבר על זה. בואו נדבר על מה נשים ללבוש. אחרי הכל הבחירות לנשיאות הם בשנה הבאה, צריך להחדיר את הפחד של
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Thing is, beaches are a place of openness and represent Western values.

Why should that change? Just because of an idea you made up? Cultural Marxism?

Very (((weak))) rationale here. Burkas on beaches, then we should also protect freedom of speech to yell fire in a theater.
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Old 08-26-2016, 07:58 PM
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A dress code in a place you work is one thing. Enforcing a dress code on the general public by the government is a bad thing.

Also don't buy this beach values bullshit. Beach is no different than any place else. Claiming people have to respect some sort of western beach values is total bullshit. Its just a public place like any other.

Again, don't care about muslim rights per se, but I do care about decisions regarding them that may infringe on my personal liberties. For that, I think telling people they can't wear a burkini is an obvious bad choice.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:11 PM
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A dress code in a place you work is one thing. Enforcing a dress code on the general public by the government is a bad thing.

Also don't buy this beach values bullshit. Beach is no different than any place else. Claiming people have to respect some sort of western beach values is total bullshit. Its just a public place like any other.

Again, don't care about muslim rights per se, but I do care about decisions regarding them that may infringe on my personal liberties. For that, I think telling people they can't wear a burkini is an obvious bad choice.
i never thought i would say that ever, but i totally agree with you

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Old 08-26-2016, 08:21 PM
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thats one way to get open borders...

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i just wonder why this is news... i get why it's bazonker's but... the state of emergency is more troubling, is it still going on?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States...ency_in_France says it is....


'Proclaiming the state of emergency gives exceptional powers to the Minister of the Interior and to prefects. The Minister can pronounce house arrests. The prefects can regulate or forbid circulation and gathering in some areas: the power of curfew, which mayors can pronounce for the territory of their city independently of the state of emergency, is extended to prefects.'

'On 13 November 2015, immediately following a series of terrorist attacks in Paris, and presently ongoing. As of 23 July 2016, almost 3,600 houses had been raided, under the state of emergency, and five of these raids led to a terrorism-linked judicial investigation.'

so they let a bunch of people in to cause craziness and then institute Bigger Bro and General Warrants?... is this verifiable?
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:27 PM
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it is verifiable and i find the bullshit dancing aorund this idea innapropriate ... i'm sorry if i cause your country that is democratically socialist to reject the principles of private property and self-determination....

stand up (lay down in the case of the assed-out moto-bike civil disruptors who displayed themselves in their own self-made ovens for cooking on the beach)....

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it's no wonder why im ignored most of the time... but ... im really not tryin' to kill this place even if thats my order...

more like, wake up, pay attention, see the views that are outside of MY range....


welcome jarnauga because if we don't we will suffer the same wrath knowing or not...


heow... so much for leavin the lime out... damn.... DAMMIR... (throwbakc shoutouts to t0y,bot, spirit , caustik, ryu, yea ill stop.... flo got the most, we decide but , nothing about now, here , today.
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:52 PM
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Attacking someones clothing is just a bitch-made roundabout way of condemning a religion/culture that threatens their laws and values. They should grow a pair and address the real issue instead of making up stupid rules that also restrict and infringe on the rights of their "normal" citizens.

But this is the french we're talking about, so growing a pair is probably out of the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft9rCXsYCpY
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its more than religous abridging....


its more to me about freedom of association... why else would they create a law for it... ok its france so i'm learning and for real from the beginning knowing i could never get down with bernie so ... oh wait


its the frnech... FUKC your right... i will say that it all appends to USA tho... as soon as trump and nanny Rodham are included then we already knew so anything here is past tense... hence why im here... im surprised im still able... these are those times...
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Old 08-27-2016, 01:20 AM
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I'll ask again, do you prefer rape for your daughter or a betrayal of Western values to protect yourself from the savages you were too weak to resist allowing within your borders? These, or God forbid, physical removal of immigrants who belong to cultures that are statistically more likely to be unable to assimilate (includes physical removal of people who do not deserve it), are your options.
How does banning the burkini protect anyone? Are we to assume that because muslim women aren't able to wear it, that all muslims, both men and women, will simply opt out of visiting the beach?

Again, this is just passive aggression when direct aggression is needed. This is just people helplessly lashing out.

Assuming that banning burkini's actually does somehow magically prevent muslims from going to the beach and therefore groping women (which is asinine), no I still wouldn't support it. Not unless the law read:
Any muslim found wearing a burkini will be arrested and deported, and also any muslim found anywhere regardless of attire will likewise be deported.

They need to deal with the root of the problem, not the symptoms.

Taking away the rights of the general populus is always done in the name of protection. In this case, they need to protect the people from those who are threatening them, not create a cause for further civil disturbances.
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