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Old 05-22-2013, 12:00 AM
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Rotation would be wonderful but will not happen on this server. GMs stated many times that they will not enforce a rotation and top raid guilds will not agree to one. Wishful thinking at best.
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:50 AM
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Rotation would be wonderful but will not happen on this server. GMs stated many times that they will not enforce a rotation and top raid guilds will not agree to one. Wishful thinking at best.

This is sadly pathetic, to both the Dev's and the respective guild leaders of this server. Way to act like children.
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:57 AM
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This is sadly pathetic, to both the Dev's and the respective guild leaders of this server. Way to act like children.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:09 AM
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I want raid loot but I think its unacceptable to have to join a raid guild to do it. Actually why do I have to raid at all? Every mob in the game should drop a CoF every single time. This whole having to work to get stuff idea is utter BS.
There's this game called World of Warcraft you might enjoy more.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:41 AM
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Yet another dumb post that has '0' relevance to the thread at hand.
Sounds pretty relevant to me. You're crying about having to put effort into getting end game content. You seem convinced that crying on the forums will somehow earn you loot faster than playing the game. This seem accurate?
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:39 AM
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A fucking Raid Calendar, where guilds can sign up to be chosen that week for rights to a designated raid zone. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. Such a simple solution to such a sour subject.
Why not put up the raid calendar yourself? I'm completely capable of doing it, but I can't be pissed to work on one more thing to be honest.

Then, you try working with the raid guilds on the server to hammer out rotations. Perhaps focusing the calendar on content they are less inclined to raid would be the idea? That way, when they get bored and implode you have a set of guilds that are used to working together. And I'll bet if everyone is holding hands and singing Kumbaya you might be able to convince the devs responsible to remove the spawn variances.

Don't expect the staff to fix your problems.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:47 AM
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Accountability. Pass it on!

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Old 05-22-2013, 09:02 AM
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Don't expect the staff to fix your problems.
And when they had a hand in creating it? Or what about when they go in the opposite direction of what was promised and agreed upon by the players? two? three times? What then?

Aeolwind, you're a really good dude but even you know that's horseshit.

- Rogean decided against the raid rules that were promised to be enforced back in 2010 when he backed Bumamgar and that naggy incident.

- Rogean adds yet another variance upon a variance that the majority of the players agree should be done away with. We were assured by nilbog that we'd see the exact opposite.

- They agree that poopsocking is an issue, but instead of addressing it with classic mechanics and a classic approach it's instead decided that changing the way every single NPC in the game reacts is a better idea, thus preventing third party M+KB recorders from being abused, and, i'm sure, affecting nobody else in the process.

The rules and the approach needs a major overhaul and it's not just the players I'm talking about.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:20 AM
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The rules and the approach needs a major overhaul and it's not just the players I'm talking about.
If we were talking about a paid game, with GM's that could be paid to take crap and kick ass, sure. But no way in hell does anyone on a volunteer staff need to be available 24/7 to beat mainly adults with a crowbar.

I cannot be convinced that anyone on this project should spend more of their time policing the players.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:31 AM
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If we were talking about a paid game, with GM's that could be paid to take crap and kick ass, sure. But no way in hell does anyone on a volunteer staff need to be available 24/7 to beat mainly adults with a crowbar.

I cannot be convinced that anyone on this project should spend more of their time policing the players.
Then what's up with the inconsistency and half-handed approach? The staff puts up with an insane amount of BS, but, I'm sorry to say, they invite some of the criticism with some incredibly poor decision making as well.

Aeolwind, I think it's silly to claim that it's up to the players when past history, and in particular recent history, proves otherwise. The biggest issue here is clarity and consistency, and that starts at the top. The staff claims to take players' ideas and will back them upon agreement but the last two major changes have been in the exact opposite direction and have benefited (and pertained to) a small selection of players while ignoring what was agreed upon and promised.

From a players' perspective, what should I expect? You're claiming one thing but we're seeing the opposite.
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