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Old 08-24-2013, 06:26 PM
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It actually is an illness. Alot of trans people think that saying that is insulting, but im on the other side. Im a medical professional, and there's no shame in it, I got bad asthma and allergies too. GID (Gender Identity Disorder) is an illness listed in every branch of medicine, including pediatrics. There are just so few people who actually talk about it, and even fewer that actually transition (takes balls). The general public considers it very taboo, mostly because of lack of education.

Im not really one of those rainbow flag waving sillies. Im pretty private about it (except obv. online). I prefer to separate myself from 'the community'.. because I dont want to get hated on. Did you hear about that poor transgirl that got jumped and killed in NY last week..? Yikes. Thank god I pass. (My fellow tranny friends hate my view on this). ~
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:29 PM
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It actually is an illness. Alot of trans people think that saying that is insulting, but im on the other side. Im a medical professional, and there's no shame in it, I got bad asthma and allergies too. GID (Gender Identity Disorder) is an illness listed in every branch of medicine, including pediatrics. There are just so few people who actually talk about it, and even fewer that actually transition (takes balls). The general public considers it very taboo, mostly because of lack of education.

Im not really one of those rainbow flag waving sillies. Im pretty private about it (except obv. online). I prefer to separate myself from 'the community'.. because I dont want to get hated on. Did you hear about that poor transgirl that got jumped and killed in NY last week..? Yikes. Thank god I pass. (My fellow tranny friends hate my view on this). ~
Whether or not that is the case. My purpose in this thread was to point out that Lron suffers from numerous mental illnesses , having nothing to do with the thread topic .
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:31 PM
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Lol, it wasnt addressed to you. To the fellow who made the thread. = )
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:32 PM
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It actually is an illness. Alot of trans people think that saying that is insulting, but im on the other side. Im a medical professional, and there's no shame in it, I got bad asthma and allergies too. GID (Gender Identity Disorder) is an illness listed in every branch of medicine, including pediatrics. There are just so few people who actually talk about it, and even fewer that actually transition (takes balls). The general public considers it very taboo, mostly because of lack of education.

Im not really one of those rainbow flag waving sillies. Im pretty private about it (except obv. online). I prefer to separate myself from 'the community'.. because I dont want to get hated on. Did you hear about that poor transgirl that got jumped and killed in NY last week..? Yikes. Thank god I pass. (My fellow tranny friends hate my view on this). ~
It's an illness by definition (GID is still in the DSM V), sure, and i'd rather keep it there honestly, as some insurance will cover hormones due to it being in the DSM-V. I'd rather hormones/SRS be free to all someday. That being said, just because someone's mentally ill doesn't mean you should shun them from society, same can be said about people with high-functioning autism. Einstein was thought to be autistic and he did just fine.

It's a taboo subject in society, sure, but it's reality, and if you can't brace reality you are doomed to reject basic understanding of life.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:34 PM
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Im a libertarian, I do not believe big brother has the right to take money out of your pocket by force of taxation to give a transgendered or any other person medical care.

We have 3-4 generations now who think it is the governments responsibility to take care of people and not their own and that creates a sick society. I go out and help people all the time, so should you and every other person.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:37 PM
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It's an illness by definition (GID is still in the DSM V), sure, and i'd rather keep it there honestly, as some insurance will cover hormones due to it being in the DSM-V. I'd rather hormones/SRS be free to all someday. That being said, just because someone's mentally ill doesn't mean you should shun them from society, same can be said about people with high-functioning autism. Einstein was thought to be autistic and he did just fine.

It's a taboo subject in society, sure, but it's reality, and if you can't brace reality you are doomed to reject basic understanding of life.
True story. Most t peeps will flip the fuck out when you call them ill and show it to them on paper. I dont think its a trend either, maybe because of the gay stuff going on in the past 10~ years people are being more open about it and deciding to transition.

Idk I dont really think its that big of a deal.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:40 PM
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Im a libertarian, I do not believe big brother has the right to take money out of your pocket by force of taxation to give a transgendered or any other person medical care.

We have 3-4 generations now who think it is the governments responsibility to take care of people and not their own and that creates a sick society. I go out and help people all the time, so should you and every other person.
I like this. Im politically right, morally left. I was raised on self preservation, anti welfare, etc.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:43 PM
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Im a libertarian, I do not believe big brother has the right to take money out of your pocket by force of taxation to give a transgendered or any other person medical care.

We have 3-4 generations now who think it is the governments responsibility to take care of people and not their own and that creates a sick society. I go out and help people all the time, so should you and every other person.
Our country isn't a democracy, it's a republic. Everyone has equal rights under the law. I'm an independent, and I reject the notion that our society should be democratic like you have stated above.

Who are you to determine who's allowed to own a gun, or any of these senators or even the president? Public opinion states otherwise, and nothing should be behind closed doors at all.

What you are stating in the first message is directly reflective of communism which in theory would work but does not protect its own flaws. Because I can't get it, no one should. That's wrong, and if anything, I'm a socialist in my ideas. If I am entitled to it, I should have it, given it exists and is readily available for the public. But we're all entitled to our own opinion, I suppose.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:44 PM
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I like this. Im politically right, morally left. I was raised on self preservation, anti welfare, etc.
I'm okay with taking something that is available provided reasonable need. If someone needs welfare, they should be entitled to it but only until they do not need it anymore, and there should be incentives to getting off of welfare instead of housing those who truly are doing nothing but existing on it.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:45 PM
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It actually is an illness. Alot of trans people think that saying that is insulting, but im on the other side. Im a medical professional, and there's no shame in it, I got bad asthma and allergies too. GID (Gender Identity Disorder) is an illness listed in every branch of medicine, including pediatrics. There are just so few people who actually talk about it, and even fewer that actually transition (takes balls). The general public considers it very taboo, mostly because of lack of education.

Im not really one of those rainbow flag waving sillies. Im pretty private about it (except obv. online). I prefer to separate myself from 'the community'.. because I dont want to get hated on. Did you hear about that poor transgirl that got jumped and killed in NY last week..? Yikes. Thank god I pass. (My fellow tranny friends hate my view on this). ~
Its taboo because you get your penis medically removed man...it has nothing to do with lack of education, its an intensely extreme act on a body part that people are highly interested in.

Also, if you are choosing to separate yourself from a community because of fear of being hated, that seems rather cowardly. You have the balls cut off your dick (perfectly worded) but like the courage to identify with a group you took such an extreme measure to be a part of? This all seems rather confusing.

And about the transgirl getting killed, I abhor the use of force on any human being when it is not done out of self defense whether it be a child, a senior, a gay person, a transgendered person, a ****** etc etc so the mere fact that this was a transgendered person is not the sad thing in this story, its the fact that an innocent life was taken by a psychopath.

With all this being said, I would gladly be your friend irl and carry no shame or apprehension going out with you and having some beers and talking like I do with my gay friends, straight friends etc.

One thing is for certain, transgendered people might be fucking insane but at least they aren't boring and ill take insane over boring any day of the week.
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