How to PBAOE 200+ mobs at once with no risk

[pasi]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

man those smart people using tactics and team work should be punished!

this thread should be taken out back and shot

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Jesus fuck, it's a PvP server - root/snare/stun/whatever if they aren't on your team. If they are on your team, heal the bastard kiting.

[kronika]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a bug thread here about it:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...t=98223&page=3

Should not work the way it does currently.

That bug thread states that below 20%, the mobs continue to aggro regardless of any other threats added. This is demonstrably not true. After a certain percentage of damage is done to the monsters, they turn away from the low hp person and on to the person doing the damage. You can avoid this by zoning periodically, but it still happens.

[Bardalicious]

All of these kids that are crying about how bard kiting will ruin the release of the new box don't seem to understand how severely limited this sort of kiting is in classic zones. Gorge hounds / spiders in EK and cents / gnolls / aviaks in SK are about the extent to AE kiting. There are far less npc nodes to pull in these zones compared to OT and DL and obviously is only good til about level 35ish on a level 50 capped server.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by kronika [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. People underestimate the amount of tactics/work that goes into setting up a successful low hp kite. "Oh my god this guy is getting xp in a different way than me! Nerf pls!"

These tactics were nerfed.... in Luclin. Also in agreement with you... there is risk as a certain point the bard WILL get aggro on the train. This can be managed but it requires significant planning.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Giovanni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Used in Skyfire at level 60, one can get 20% of a level per pull.

I would enjoy seeing someone pull skyfire without getting any summoners. Someone do a video!

Also, 1 yellow of 60 in an AE pull doesn't seem terribly impressive, especially split between only two people. It's not like xp is slow in 60.

[Nuggie]

As above posters have said: grow some balls and handle it yourself.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would enjoy seeing someone pull skyfire without getting any summoners. Someone do a video!

Also, 1 yellow of 60 in an AE pull doesn't seem terribly impressive, especially split between only two people. It's not like xp is slow in 60.

Doing skyfire is certainly a pain. I did it once with another bard and a wizard. Exp was not that great for how long it took with the 3 of us. It is doable though; I'm sure we weren't super efficient.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

man those smart people using tactics and team work should be punished!

this thread should be taken out back and shot

LOL, grow the fuck up. Maybe spend some time learning what the concept risk vs. reward describes.


Did any of you people play pre-Luclin EQ? If anybody had managed to do what the OP documents back in the day, McQuaid and company would've gone into total panic mode. The "tactic" would've been declared an exploit with bans for anybody repeating it. The players doing it would've been very lucky not to be temp banned with XP and loot removed from their characters prior to reinstatement. The game would've been patched ASAP to make it impossible to repeat.

This isn't classic EQ, it's retarded bullshit.

[t0lkien]

To the low HP kiting apologists, it's pretty clear it's a broken mechanic and clearly against the spirit of the game, not to mention all the carefully tuned systems that enforce a slow progression elsewhere. It's also classic (though no-one in classic times could take advantage of it as we can now with broadband connections and exponentially faster computers), but just because we can doesn't mean we should.

Even so, I doubt there would be many people complaining about this if Bards only used it to level themselves. The mess created by constantly powerleveling other players and thereby inconveniencing the rest of the player base through zone domination/death aggro etc. is the problem.

TL;DR defending low HP kiting is silly.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by kronika [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. People underestimate the amount of tactics/work that goes into setting up a successful low hp kite. "Oh my god this guy is getting xp in a different way than me! Nerf pls!"

There is 0 skill and only 30 min worth of effort involved in gathering a low hp kite. Finding a wizard who wants to jackoff for an hour and cast their PBAE and mana spell for 20 min of the hour is easy, wizards love exp. I lvled around two dozen+ people on red server with BW and SF kites. I got one cleric 40-46 in one pull, was funny shit.

PS - SF used to be super cake to gather, just be lvl 51 and track. If you can't figure that out you dumb. I lvl a Wiz 59-60 in 7 hours I think with SF kites. That being said, now that track is vlassic, SF kites suck compared to BW. BW is the most brainless easy shit ever. pull entire zone, PBAE down, win.