"Porting for donations"...a little selfish?

[Xadion]

somecheapsk

you must have ported me

and I am poor as shit yo

mandatory and donation do not go together.

mandatory donation gets 1p just porting I usually do 50

[Furniture]

your not entitled to anything espcially not ports/buffs from other players, if you don't want to pay for your buffs/ports when a person is trying to make money doing so, then stop being lazy and run there or play a class that has that buffs and then you can do what you want, this sounds similar to a 25 year old who is angry that his parents are asking him for rent money when they "don't have" to.

[Langrisserx]

Originally Posted by murcielago200 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Normally if someone tries to pay me less then 20pp I cancel the trade because I assume they are too poor

oh hey i didnt know Mitt Romney played everquest?

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your not entitled to anything espcially not ports/buffs from other players, if you don't want to pay for your buffs/ports when a person is trying to make money doing so, then stop being lazy and run there or play a class that has that buffs and then you can do what you want, this sounds similar to a 25 year old who is angry that his parents are asking him for rent money when they "don't have" to.

And porters/buffers are not "entitled" to mandatory donations from clients. Donations should be freely given of the clients own free will, optional, not something that's automatically implied. If you want to charge money for your buffs/ports, fine, say something like "porting to so and so for x amount of pp." not "porting to so and so for a donation." That's a misuse of the word and tends to confuse and/or give the wrong impression. That's like holding out a collection plate after delivering a pizza.

[Furniture]

"And porters/buffers are not "entitled" to mandatory donations from clients."

And how is that so? If I were playing a druid class, it is soley my discretion if it is mandatory or not, not yours

Just because you wish players would give you free buffs/ports does not mean they should, and your semantics argument is nothing but a petty semantics argument. If someone is porting for donations obviously it means they are trying to make money, not give you free buffs/ports, and I don't think anybody is confused by that

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"And porters/buffers are not "entitled" to mandatory donations from clients."

And how is that so? If I were playing a druid class, it is soley my discretion if it is mandatory or not, not yours

Just because you wish players would give you free buffs/ports does not mean they should, and your semantics argument is nothing but a petty semantics argument. If someone is porting for donations obviously it means they are trying to make money, not give you free buffs/ports, and I don't think anybody is confused by that

First of all, I do tip when I ask for a port or buffs. Usually 25pp, sometimes 50pp if I can afford it.

Second, if they are trying to make money they should say "porting for a fee of x plat." NOT "porting for donations." Because then the donation isn't a donation, it's a bill. A donation implies an optional handout at the discretion of the client receiving the service, not a mandatory one enforced by the provider.

[Furniture]

your trying to make a semantics argument but you are wrong about what a donation is:

donation [dəʊˈneɪʃən]
n
1. the act of giving, esp to a charity
2. a contribution
[from Latin dōnātiō a presenting, from dōnāre to give, from dōnum gift]


I don't know why you think that when someone says "porting for donations" that it is optional. Maybe you would be happier if every druid rewrote their message to say "porting for optional donations", but people do not generally like to waste hours of their playtime porting people around for the chance to not make any money.

There is no confusion. People do not "port/buff for donation" unless they are trying to make money. If the person does not have a donation to give then that person should tell the porter and see if he will do it for free, but it should absolutely not be expected.

[justin2090]

I don't see the big deal here. Maybe it's because I have a 49 druid. It even states on the wiki that 1pp per level is the accepted "donation" for porting. I mean if you don't want to pay for someones time just walk or take the boat. Is worth 10-50p to not ride the boat to Kunark? I think so.

Maybe you haven't experienced a boat ride. Get greedy and ride the boat one time then....

/ooc Donating for port PST!!!

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your trying to make a semantics argument but you are wrong about what a donation is:

donation [dəʊˈneɪʃən]
n
1. the act of giving, esp to a charity
2. a contribution
[from Latin dōnātiō a presenting, from dōnāre to give, from dōnum gift]


I don't know why you think that when someone says "porting for donations" that it is optional. Maybe you would be happier if every druid rewrote their message to say "porting for optional donations", but people do not generally like to waste hours of their playtime porting people around for the chance to not make any money.

There is no confusion. People do not "port/buff for donation" unless they are trying to make money. If the person does not have a donation to give then that person should tell the porter and see if he will do it for free, but it should absolutely not be expected.

The act of giving means exactly what it says, to GIVE. Not to PAY. A GIFT is given freely from one to another, not as a mandatory fee of service. Your understanding of the word and the meaning of "donation" is seriously flawed.

You want to be paid for your services? Say something like "porting to so and so for 25pp per person." Then people know it's a mandated fee and can decide whether they want the service or not. When I see someone saying "porting for donations", misusing the word, then I'll ask them for a port and donate them 1000cp to piss them off.

Donating and tipping are one and the same, and tipping means voluntary, not forced. Free, not FEE.

Here, read this: http://mostlywater.org/mandatory_don...ree_versus_fee

[justin2090]

I think your arguing a mute point here. And btw you know your stiffing the poor if you tip 1000cp. There is a reason why you see a druid advertise in EC for a week and then never again. You port enough to save up cash to start a class you really wanted to play in the first place but didn't have any starter funds (melee).

Like I said, Wiki states 1pp per lvl is accepted. You already know what the price is before you even send the tell.