Sirken locks thread before I can say good call

[contemptor]

Summary- Don't make your own decisions. Even if another guild is cheating, don't step in, load up a 3rd party program and take video of the event, then upload it somewhere, so you can report it and get a response in 3-5 weeks. Nobody will get banned, but theoretically you could get transferred some loot.

[radditsu]

First In force rule....

The povar way.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Vandy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So FE stale kites... broken rule

BDA tags because above rule is broken which turns out to be another rule being broken.
2nd rule being broken completely negates first rule being broken? Must have been written to the same sector of the hard drive, no way to prove the first rule was broken due to overwrites.... gg

Yep and if kiting was easier to prove people wouldn't try and peel. Which now probably isn't a great idea, as they would just look at logs and say that you KS'd a pull and then raid suspended you a few days later for KSing. Which makes it far more favorable to just stall kite and then just blame it on being lost lol

[contemptor]

I would've thought the correct response is BDA would get banned if stepping in unfairly (aka cheating- stealing FTE) in a situation like this, but apparently stepping in fairly (after rule violation) without reporting it first is not allowed. Thankfully this is clear now and reassuringly will never happen again on project 1999.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by contemptor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Summary- Don't make your own decisions. Even if another guild is cheating, don't step in, load up a 3rd party program and take video of the event, then upload it somewhere, so you can report it and get a response in 3-5 weeks. Nobody will get banned, but theoretically you could get transferred some loot.

They were duping the loot awhile back, because after having the loot awarded for so long to a character they didn't want to take it away from them or have to track it down lol.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First In force rule....

The povar way.

Will never happen, server doesn't have the balls. They prefer camped alt raid forces and poopsocking over prioritizing targets and possibly missing others while socking.

Worst part is the server admin welcomes such attitudes even though it adds so much more work with the fraps and shit when raid force world only require checking a zone population log.

Let tards be tards.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Vandy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So FE stale kites... broken rule

BDA tags because above rule is broken which turns out to be another rule being broken.
2nd rule being broken completely negates first rule being broken? Must have been written to the same sector of the hard drive, no way to prove the first rule was broken due to overwrites.... gg

There was no kite because BDA pulled Draco off before any kite was initiated - it was straight pulled to Westwall and tanked; whether or not there would have been a kite if they did not is the only question here. You cannot pull a mob off before there is a kite claiming that there would have been a kite.

Personally I think that not having a raidforce in the zone should disqualify a guild from claiming the mob, however the server rules do not agree with me. My father has yelled at me about this numerous times. People who want to raid on this server should have learned long ago that the prerequisite to doing so is being able to separate your RL ethics and morals from your virtual ones. Idealism and principles mean nothing when the rules of the game do not recognize them.

[runlvlzero]

I've had about 10 good thrads deleted on me and I'm pretty sad about it. Most have to do with the game and are on topic as well.

[Hailto]

Are you guys employed?

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Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was no kite because BDA pulled Draco off before any kite was initiated - it was straight pulled to Westwall and tanked; whether or not there would have been a kite if they did not is the only question here. You cannot pull a mob off before there is a kite claiming that there would have been a kite.

Personally I think that not having a raidforce in the zone should disqualify a guild from claiming the mob, however the server rules do not agree with me. My father has yelled at me about this numerous times. People who want to raid on this server should have learned long ago that the prerequisite to doing so is being able to separate your RL ethics and morals from your virtual ones. Idealism and principles mean nothing when the rules of the game do not recognize them.

Do not peel a kite, it's something you do when you're frustrated. Kiting gives you the upper hand and having a guild peel your kite means you've just won.


Also, p99 raiding is about not wanting your time wasted. Huge amounts of time invested for each raid target (tracking) so no one wants that to go to waste. Everyone plays like their time is more valuable to them than the competitions. It's not so much that you leave your morals, it's just that they get in the way far to often and not very many people are going to keep their morals so they can waste more time.