Everquest WAS great - Page 2

Obrae · #2 01-04-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lazcar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For all of you who do not believe in evolution take a moment and think. The last few weeks show you one thing! Everquest WAS the beginning of a great era of gaming. But everything evolves and thus did the realm of MMORPG! To all of you who say EQ is a kill based game I tell you: WoW takes more skill to be top end the Everquest! BURN!??!?!?! But true!! One important result of evolution is improvement. The current thread in Server chat about instances shows this! The current raid scene shows this... I do not blame IB or TMO for anthing!!! instances are the resultant of treating the raidscene as such..

The point being...

There is no point is flaming, blaming, or argueing...

As long as p99 is a non instanced game there will be anger.. .there will be arguements.. there will be injustice. There is a reason the modern gamin community has moved in a certain direction.

Everquest IS the founding father do this. The reason the raid scene does not work on this server is 3 things(f u gramma nazis)
1) The majority of the players are not ignorant of the game as in classic
2) The game is 15 years old so everything is known about it
3) IF YOU WANT COMPETITION TRY PLAYING A GAME WHERE THE CONTENT ISNT 15 YEARS OLD NECKBEARD MOUTH BREATHERS?!?!?!

Those who are currently giving up IRL to play this game I /feelbadforu

What made EQ great wasnt its end game, it was the need for people to work together. And the fact that 1-59 wasnt just a grind to get to 60. it was fun from 1 to 60.

Hell most people never reached top level and had fun, made friend and such.
Also there was justice, if you were an ass you couldn't get away with it. Where as in wow... the game will force us to play with assholes.

fastboy21 · #3 01-04-2014, 01:44 PM

The OP assumes that EQ is all about gathering pixels and "winning". If this is the case, I 100% agree with you. Modern MMOs have much more depth to their combat systems, raiding targets, etc.

But I don't agree with the premise. EQ isn't about those things. What makes EQ great is that the system lends itself to socialization.

I make more "friends" and have more interaction in one night of EQ grouping then I do in a year of most new MMOs. I mean that literally.

Arteker · #4 01-04-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The OP assumes that EQ is all about gathering pixels and "winning". If this is the case, I 100% agree with you. Modern MMOs have much more depth to their combat systems, raiding targets, etc.

But I don't agree with the premise. EQ isn't about those things. What makes EQ great is that the system lends itself to socialization.

I make more "friends" and have more interaction in one night of EQ grouping then I do in a year of most new MMOs. I mean that literally.

when actualy raid world become more and more complex u usaly needed o sociaalmor have charisma to keep together a bunch of psychos lusting for pixels and often(as was my case ) because a feud with other guidl(from other server nothing less).

But u forgot aswell how much cry was in everquest there was always alot of QQ btw different class and balance, i still remember how pissed where clerics when deepwater helm use begin to be very popular for downtime group healing , ( and they lobbied to get it nerfed and their own arms in the same time).

fastboy21 · #5 01-04-2014, 03:37 PM

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when actualy raid world become more and more complex u usaly needed o sociaalmor have charisma to keep together a bunch of psychos lusting for pixels and often(as was my case ) because a feud with other guidl(from other server nothing less).

But u forgot aswell how much cry was in everquest there was always alot of QQ btw different class and balance, i still remember how pissed where clerics when deepwater helm use begin to be very popular for downtime group healing , ( and they lobbied to get it nerfed and their own arms in the same time).

the game action you are describing (class balance, itemization balance, etc.) contributed to the social factors of the game. people didn't socialize in EQ because they were nicer folks or more extroverted than the folks playing modern MMOs today. They did it because the game required it.

There were multiple IN GAME reasons to interact with other players. Even a simple low level dungeon requires a modicum of social interaction in EQ.

Yes, it meant nights that you had your lfg tag up till late and still never found a group...and all other kinds of bad things. In the end, I think folks who love EQ are the people who decided that all the hardships are worth the benefit of playing in a world that feels more real because of the socialization behind it.

Tann · #6 01-04-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the game action you are describing (class balance, itemization balance, etc.) contributed to the social factors of the game. people didn't socialize in EQ because they were nicer folks or more extroverted than the folks playing modern MMOs today. They did it because the game required it.

There were multiple IN GAME reasons to interact with other players. Even a simple low level dungeon requires a modicum of social interaction in EQ.

Yes, it meant nights that you had your lfg tag up till late and still never found a group...and all other kinds of bad things. In the end, I think folks who love EQ are the people who decided that all the hardships are worth the benefit of playing in a world that feels more real because of the socialization behind it.

Sadly new mmo's are the exact opposite, no need for grouping or communicating. Defiance is/was a great example.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums · #7 01-04-2014, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the game action you are describing (class balance, itemization balance, etc.) contributed to the social factors of the game. people didn't socialize in EQ because they were nicer folks or more extroverted than the folks playing modern MMOs today. They did it because the game required it.

There were multiple IN GAME reasons to interact with other players. Even a simple low level dungeon requires a modicum of social interaction in EQ.

Yes, it meant nights that you had your lfg tag up till late and still never found a group...and all other kinds of bad things. In the end, I think folks who love EQ are the people who decided that all the hardships are worth the benefit of playing in a world that feels more real because of the socialization behind it.

Wonderfully put.