Heroes of the Storm

[Grubbz]

Trump just started stream HoTS check it out for a new player prospective.

http://www.twitch.tv/trumpsc

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Grubbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

here comes the dota 2 fanboys, scared of losing more of there playerbase.

Losing player base? Lol. Game base has only been increasing steadily since release. What player base has been lost? People know that if they want a real successor to DOTA, they go to DOTA 2. If you want a watered down, overly simplified, WoW-ed version of it? Go to LoL. If you're a Blizzard fanboy, now you have Heroes of the Storm.

Troll harder, buddy.

[Grubbz]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Losing player base? Lol. Game base has only been increasing steadily since release. What player base has been lost? People know that if they want a real successor to DOTA, they go to DOTA 2. If you want a watered down, overly simplified, WoW-ed version of it? Go to LoL. If you're a Blizzard fanboy, now you have Heroes of the Storm.

Troll harder, buddy.

Same argument HoN fanboys had back when it was HoN Vs LoL......................


Yeah that dident last long and its the same for dota 2 but w/e you aint worth the time bro, enjoy your shitty game.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Grubbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same argument HoN fanboys had back when it was HoN Vs LoL......................


Yeah that dident last long and its the same for dota 2 but w/e you aint worth the time bro, enjoy your shitty game.

It's a valid argument. Why worry about couriers, town portal scrolls, meaningful moments in combat due to heavy CC abilities, or any of the numerous things that add challenge to a game? Why not just dumb it down so stupid people can play it too? I'll enjoy my growing game (an empirical fact) that doesn't lock shit behind monetary investment.

League fanboys are silly. It's one thing to play League because your friends do, just like people who play WoW because their friends do. It's another entirely to be this delusional. Have fun with your overly simplified shitty game.

And back on track: Blizzard is just sad they lost DOTA 2 to Valve. Lol.

[Grubbz]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have fun with your overly simplified shitty game.

Pretty sure riot owns 80% of the moba market so there doing something right and blizzard is just taking it to the next level. Your talking to someone who played the original dota and loved it but that time has came and passed, everything now and days is being made for more casual play. The gaming market is no longer made up of the hardcore gamers, atleast not since the 90s. Gaming companies target the casual audience now, its how it is and how its gonna be in the future.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Grubbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pretty sure riot owns 80% of the moba market so there doing something right.

They did do something right, certainly. But WoW owned, at one point, 80% of the MMO market throughout Cataclysm. Were they doing something right? Don't make the logical mistake that because something is popular, that it is doing it best. Lol. WoW suffered for their transgressions, and the game is beginning to bleed because of it as people are starting to break out of the perpetuation cycle.

You see, stupid people fail to realize that in most multiplayer games, what is more important than the game itself are the people involved. People will choose WoW over a superior game because WoW is the game that has their friends. So even if Blizzard starts doing shit that is fucked up with their game, WoW, they still have a population, because populations perpetuate themselves until the game devolves to the point where even social connections don't keep people in the game. Larger games have a greater pull.

League is still young, and although Riot started out with the standard Indie "good for the players" attitude, they have, almost yearly, been continuing to devolve. Give them time, and it will bleed just like WoW is. But if you are a person that looks at WoW and says WoW is the superior, epitome of all MMORPGs as shown by its population being vaster than any other currently... Then I think you're truly brain damaged.

Learn you some social science.

[Grubbz]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They did do something right, certainly. But WoW owned, at one point, 80% of the MMO market throughout Cataclysm. Were they doing something right? Don't make the logical mistake that because something is popular, that it is doing it best. Lol. WoW suffered for their transgressions, and the game is beginning to bleed because of it as people are starting to break out of the perpetuation cycle.

You see, stupid people fail to realize that in most multiplayer games, what is more important than the game itself are the people involved. People will choose WoW over a superior game because WoW is the game that has their friends. So even if Blizzard starts doing shit that is fucked up with their game, WoW, they still have a population, because populations perpetuate themselves until the game devolves to the point where even social connections don't keep people in the game. Larger games have a greater pull.

League is still young, and although Riot started out with the standard Indie "good for the players" attitude, they have, almost yearly, been continuing to devolve. Give them time, and it will bleed just like WoW is. But if you are a person that looks at WoW and says WoW is the superior, epitome of all MMORPGs as shown by its population being vaster than any other currently... Then I think you're truly brain damaged.

Learn you some social science.

Don't get me wrong, i quit league at the start of S4 because of all the stupid shit they have done to the game but coming in here and saying blizzard is mad at icefrog for not hiring them for dota 2 is absurd. Personally im glad a new moba is coming out and this one lets you play characters like the Lich King or Nova or hell you can even play diablo and ride a unicorn into battle.

Its going to own the market and u can bet on that.

[Swish]

Did give that stream a look, maybe I'm just a creature of habit but I wasn't bowled over by Blizzard's take on a MOBA. Say one bad thing in the chat though (about Gazlowe's slow charging ability) and the fan boys jump on you... "OMFG ITS IN ALHPA!!!111".

I think there's room for people to try a new MOBA, but I don't think it'll overtake Riot anytime soon. As far as Blizzard goes, they let me down with Hearthstone and Kung Fu Panda WoW...I think their player base for this is going to come from people who liked Kung Fu Panda WoW and those who enjoy burning big money on their credit cards. Gotta give that to Blizzard, they know how to get mom and dad to help kids enjoy themselves.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Grubbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't get me wrong, i quit league at the start of S4 because of all the stupid shit they have done to the game but coming in here and saying blizzard is mad at icefrog for not hiring them for dota 2 is absurd. Personally im glad a new moba is coming out and this one lets you play characters like the Lich King or Nova or hell you can even play diablo and ride a unicorn into battle.

Its going to own the market and u can bet on that.

Blizzard tried to sue Valve over DOTA 2, lol. You claiming that Blizzard isn't pissed is ridiculous. They tried saying that content made by another person with their tool-kit was theirs to use, as if the art made by an artist is owned by the companies that created the brush, the ink, and the canvas. Valve trademarked the name DOTA for their game as it was made as the direct sequel to DOTA as supported by the DOTA main project operator, Ice Frog. Blizzard got their panties in a bunch, as they wanted DOTA to be their tag, so they claimed that it was made on their toolkit, so they have rights to the name. They further tried to say also that DOTA was a genre, even though it was widely accepted that MOBA was the genre, and that since it was made on their engine, the name DOTA is theirs to use.

Blizzard eventually backed down when they realized how fucking stupid they were, and there is no way they were going to win the argument when Ice Frog was supporting Valve the entire way in making the DOTA sequel. So Blizzard took Heroes of the Storm instead, and DOTA 2 remained DOTA 2.

Learn you some history.

[Grubbz]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blizzard tried to sue Valve over DOTA 2, lol. You claiming that Blizzard isn't pissed is ridiculous. They tried saying that content made by another person with their tool-kit was theirs to use, as if the art made by an artist is owned by the companies that created the brush, the ink, and the canvas. Valve trademarked the name DOTA 2 for their game as it was made as the direct sequel to DOTA as supported by the DOTA main project runner. Blizzard got their panties in a bunch, trying to say also that DOTA was a genre, even though it was widely accepted that MOBA was the genre, and therefore the name DOTA is theirs to use. Blizzard eventually backed down when they realized how fucking stupid they were, and there is no way they were going to win the argument when Ice Frog was supporting Valve the entire way in making the DOTA sequel. So Blizzard took Heroes of the Storm instead, and DOTA 2 remained DOTA 2.

Learn you some history.

Why does it matter? HoTS will be bigger then both LoL and DOTA 2 just because it has wow attached to it, you doubt this?