By popular demand: Stop PVP on the PVP server!

[jibb]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heard this way too many times, so two things:

1) PvP was only stopped in Dagnor's Cauldron after the mob was killed. This was necessary in order for me to sort out who was present for the kill and who wasn't, in order to determine who was allowed to roll. PvP was not stopped so that people could cooperate. Anyone who thought that was the case is greatly misinformed.

You dt'd me while I was pvp'ing when the mob was at 70%.

you made a serverwide message that pvping during the next 5 mins of the fight you would be banned.

you said it yourself during your stream.

HEH

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by jibb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You dt'd me while I was pvp'ing when the mob was at 70%.

you made a serverwide message that pvping during the next 5 mins of the fight you would be banned.

you said it yourself during your stream.

HEH

Don't lie. That broadcast didn't go out until after the mob was dead. Go watch the stream. Also, you got DT'd because it was time for a DT interval from the golem. You just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time ( I had a specific criteria for DT's based on player position and class, with healers taking priority when the mob was at LOW hp, and melees taking priority at HIGH hp. As you stated, he was at 70%, and when my timer went off for a DT, the only melee in that vision arc for a DT).


Also, don't evade your forum ban.

[Derubael]

[Fri Sep 05 20:45:59 2014] Targeted (Corpse): Dread's corpse <--- jib, how could there be 5 more minutes in the fight if I'm targeting the NPC's corpse a whole 2 minutes before I made the first broadcast? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[Fri Sep 05 20:47:54 2014] You broadcast, 'DAGNORS CAULDRON IS A NO PVP ZONE FOR THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES'
[Fri Sep 05 20:47:55 2014] Derubael BROADCASTS, 'DAGNORS CAULDRON IS A NO PVP ZONE FOR THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES'



Anyway, i think that's a sufficient explanation. PvP was never "turned off" during this fight, it was just impossible to fairly and accurately distribute loot with Azrael coming in from Unrest to PvP - people would have missed out on rolls, etc.

@hey - There are a couple ways to do this, but would require Nilbog pre-scripting the event. He's hard at work on Velious and I am not going to pull him away from that! So if we want to run any "loot" events in the interim, we'll have to pause PvP during the reward phase (like we've always done, lol! Nothing new here).

<3 you guys, but it's the love a parent has for an unruly teenager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit: I almost forgot to add, just for you jibpal.

HEH

[Buhbuh]

I would disagree that the philosophy you use to try to bolster this server is in any way applicable to planned GM events where you have very specific expectations for the players.

It's your game at that point, you have their attention, you ultimately have the power, and you can essentially do whatever you want.

I don't doubt that an AoN was on CT and, out of frustration built up over the entire night, you basically withheld it from the people, and rightfully so.

At the point that you structure a GM event with certain guidelines, the typical and regularly used server guidelines take a backseat to a degree.

I don't disagree with you on really any point but that - it's subtle. It absolutely is up to the players to make the server work well, but when everything goes to shit and what you had planned produces the opposite effect, I do think it's up to you to force your hand and guide those events back to something palatable for the server as a whole.

[Buhbuh]

Keep in mind I wasn't at the event, but saying that it will require many different guilds to kill the given mobs isn't very hard to understand or comply with.

[davidspencer873]

buhbuh I dont think people were concerned about loot I think the problem was more than half the server just wanted to pvp for the event. dont quote me tho I could be wrong.

[Buhbuh]

Yeah, from my understanding it was just a lot of griefing and corpse camping with one guild holding down the zone for hours all night long.

[davidspencer873]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, from my understanding it was just a lot of griefing and corpse camping with one guild holding down the zone for hours all night long.

if you watch the stream you will see that there were about 5 guilds there. azrael was only there for about 30 minutes once they were told they were going to be required to play with nihilum they all left but 1 or 2

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by davidspencer873 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

azrael was only there for about 30 minutes once they were told they were going to be required to play with nihilum they all left but 1 or 2

Please don't spread misinformation. I never told Azrael they were required to do anything.

[magician]

Please take a look at my petitions and pay no attention to these stupid posts.