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Old 09-08-2014, 09:10 PM
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Posting in a troll thread.

But I've heard people bring this up as a legitimate concern, both on blue and red, so:

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hol·o·caust
ˈhäləˌkôst,ˈhōlə-/Submit
noun
1.
destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war.
"a nuclear holocaust"
synonyms: cataclysm, disaster, catastrophe;

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Entymology of the word Holocaust:
holocaust (n.) Look up holocaust at Dictionary.com
mid-13c., "sacrifice by fire, burnt offering," from Greek holokauston "a thing wholly burnt," neuter of holokaustos "burned whole," from holos "whole" (see holo-) + kaustos, verbal adjective of kaiein "to burn." Originally a Bible word for "burnt offerings," given wider sense of "massacre, destruction of a large number of persons" from 1833. The Holocaust "Nazi genocide of European Jews in World War II," first recorded 1957, earlier known in Hebrew as Shoah "catastrophe." The word itself was used in English in reference to Hitler's Jewish policies from 1942, but not as a proper name for them.
Auschwitz makes all too clear the principle that the human psyche can create meaning out of anything. [Robert Jay Lifton, "The Nazi Doctors"]
So the word has been around since at least the 13th Century AD.

It was not used to reference a "mass slaughter" until the mid 17th century.

It was finally used to define the slaughter of Jews and Hitler's policy against non-whites and "unacceptable" religions, but take note that this is "The Holocaust" which is an example of a holocaust, though by far the most well-known one.

To the handful of people I've met who actually do find that offensive, I hope that helps to broaden your understanding of the word. There can be arguments made that just about anything is offensive, because words only hold the meaning we ascribe to them. I think Holocaust is a great name for a PvP guild, and unless its members/leaders specifically start referencing it in a historical sense related to the slaughtering of Jews, we don't see any problem in letting it stay.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:19 PM
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Yeah but its mainly a bunch of uneducated racists in holocaust, barring heartbrand who should know better, so what does that tell you
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:20 PM
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:20 PM
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I mean Casey, do i really need to elaborate
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:23 PM
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Posting in a troll thread.

But I've heard people bring this up as a legitimate concern, both on blue and red, so:






So the word has been around since at least the 13th Century AD.

It was not used to reference a "mass slaughter" until the mid 17th century.

It was finally used to define the slaughter of Jews and Hitler's policy against non-whites and "unacceptable" religions, but take note that this is "The Holocaust" which is an example of a holocaust, though by far the most well-known one.

To the handful of people I've met who actually do find that offensive, I hope that helps to broaden your understanding of the word. There can be arguments made that just about anything is offensive, because words only hold the meaning we ascribe to them. I think Holocaust is a great name for a PvP guild, and unless its members/leaders specifically start referencing it in a historical sense related to the slaughtering of Jews, we don't see any problem in letting it stay.
what a loud of shit, awful intercourse used to mean you had a good time hanging out with someone once upon a time too but it sure as fuck doesn't today.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:24 PM
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id like you to go around and ask 100 people what that word means to them
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:30 PM
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id like you to go around and ask 100 people what that word means to them
I knew the word holocaust as it's actual meaning long before I learned of the WW2 genocide. It's a well-used term in writing, particularly science fiction.

Ignorance shouldn't lead to censorship, though it usually does.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:31 PM
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if guild name was <The Holocaust> would be a different kind thing imo

holocaust was a word before the jew thing
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:35 PM
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lol so if i start a guild called watermelon, fried chicken and nooses, with a bunch of racists, i guess it could be just a guild roleplaying fun times at the park playing rope swing during a picnic, it could be anything really!
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:36 PM
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