Any Cliffnotes of what each class gains in Velious?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that "the good the bad and the ugly" quote makes it sound like hybrids are going to keep their EXP penalty. immediately ignored the rest of it after reading the paladin bit.

XP penalty gets removed 1 month into Velious, not at launch. Other hybrid improvements like new spells/reassigned spells and skill level increases don't come in for 2 months after release

[Potus]

It's funny to read the class perks and see just how insanely pro-melee Verant is during this era. They're also paranoid about soloing, to the point that all the powerful soloing classes get absolutely nothing, and they introduced a ton of monsters that summon AND are immune to snare.

They were really bad a gameplay balance. Like woefully incompetent to the point of absurd satire on gaemplay balance. Kurt Vonnegut on acid satire.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny to read the class perks and see just how insanely pro-melee Verant is during this era. They're also paranoid about soloing, to the point that all the powerful soloing classes get absolutely nothing, and they introduced a ton of monsters that summon AND are immune to snare.

They were really bad a gameplay balance. Like woefully incompetent to the point of absurd satire on gaemplay balance. Kurt Vonnegut on acid satire.

Luclin and PoP fixed casters. PoP was the pinnacle of balance

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin and PoP fixed casters. PoP was the pinnacle of balance

I loved Luclin because I got to see melees complain a caster could kill them in 10 seconds. It was the ultimate in irony.

[bluejam]

"Prepare to see all new, all time highest back-stabs for ridiculous amounts of damage."

so 15dmg velious piercers got a higher max. dmg than epic? k.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by bluejam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Prepare to see all new, all time highest back-stabs for ridiculous amounts of damage."

so 15dmg velious piercers got a higher max. dmg than epic? k.

yeah thats such a bad post on so many levels

ele should be embarrassed that he quoted it =p

[Ele]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah thats such a bad post on so many levels

ele should be embarrassed that he quoted it =p

tl;dr

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by bluejam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Prepare to see all new, all time highest back-stabs for ridiculous amounts of damage."

so 15dmg velious piercers got a higher max. dmg than epic? k.

you'll be getting higher backstabs because of a higher ATK value i'm p sure

[Mac Drettj]

all hybrids get pure melee skill caps afaik

xp pen goes away

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you'll be getting higher backstabs because of a higher ATK value i'm p sure

sounds right, couple slots give +atk, plus predator

[Daldaen]

Beyond my current druid list:

Root and Snare stack now -- 1 Month after Velious - 1
Chloroblast + Nature's Touch spells added -- 2 Months after Velious - 1
Track Skill Cap Increased from 50 -> 125 -- 3 Months After Velious - 1
Faydedar + Venril Sathir made triggerable for Epic Quest -- 3 Months after Velious - 1
Venril Sathir made 3 day respawn, VSR faster respawn -- 4 Months after Velious - 1
Foraging when hungry/thirsty makes you automatically get food/water -- 4 Months after Velious - 1
Wind of the North/South can be casted from anywhere + Egress works indoors -- 6 Months after Velious - 1

Day 1 Druids get (or atleast when you get the spell/drop):

Indoor castable stun (I am fairly positive Fury of Air is indoor castable...)
ATK Debuff
Fire Resist/AC Debuff
Fixed Timer self Invis
Bear Pet (useful for pet pulling)
Protection of the Glades (6 mana regen group HP buff, stacks with Clarity/Bard Song)
Clicky Regrowth of the Grove (from Velious BP) means never spending 600 mana on Regrowth again and entire group always regening at 15/tick

Also I *think* Surefall Glade port comes in very late Velious. It is possible it was released with Luclin then I don't recall.