Game Mechanics: Melee PVP Buff During Classic

[Nirgon]

The damage on the 2handers appears to be fine so far. It's just people think they are problematic because melee rarely miss and hit at the top of their range most of the time (basically the power of a thousand avatars u feel). Just in case I confused anything with my above post.

[Crazycloud]

2hand dmg def is fine. I hit with my 2handers at times in pvp for 40-60 which sucks but w.e... prob my fought for not being raid buffed like 90 % of the server.

As Nirgon said tho it feels like melees have avatar on 24/7 just by having regular shaman buffs.

[Technique]

Three parses I ran on the beta server:

60MNK-1206ATK-255STR-BOSTAFF(40DMG) vs. 60ENC-145DEF-655AC-255AGI
--- DMG: 399762 @ 58 sdps (58 dps in 6839s) [100%]
------ Attempts: 5000 -- Hits: 4037 -- Misses: 858 -- Defended: 105 -- Accuracy: 82.5%
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60MNK-1206ATK-255STR-BOSTAFF(40DMG) vs. 60WAR-252DEF-1147AC-198AGI (geared, facing away)
--- DMG: 264252 @ 48 sdps (48 dps in 5489s) [100%]
------ Attempts: 5000 -- Hits: 3200 -- Misses: 1800 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 64%
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60MNK-1206ATK-255STR-BOSTAFF(40DMG) vs. 60WAR-252DEF-654AC-1AGI (naked, facing away)
--- DMG: 546625 @ 101 sdps (101 dps in 5435s) [100%]
------ Attempts: 5000 -- Hits: 4449 -- Misses: 551 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 89%
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AC is working. Hit chance is clamped at 90%.

[Colgate]

looks like halfway through those tests you hit a point at which your damage suddenly slows down, maybe endurance is working according to the server but doesn't show on the client?

think i've heard someone mention this before, that after raiding for a while their damage starts bottoming out as if their character was out of endurance and all their hits are for like 10 damage

[Technique]

I just checked the full logs and I was out of food and hungry for all three fights. Didn't think it would have an effect, but if that's happening then at least all three parses are equally skewed.

[Potus]

90% hit rate is absurd. That along with hitting for max damage every time is why melees are EZ mode here.

[Technique]

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90% hit rate is absurd. That along with hitting for max damage every time is why melees are EZ mode here.

I don't know if p99 is using the stock function and rules for determining hit chance, but it'd probably be reasonable to adjust it in a way that base hit chance would be 50% when the attacker's weapon skill equals the defender's defense skill, with bonus agility granting a further reduction.

And enough already with the "max damage every time" horseshit. Even without the AC changes on the beta server, you guys aren't getting hit for max anywhere near every time.

[Colgate]

90% hitrate from a raidbuffed monk on a naked player facing away from you with 1 agility is absurd? are you high?

[Potus]

Did you see the part where it's 82.5% on a clothie?

You shouldn't hit 90% on anyone. You don't even hit that accurately on a green mob 20 levels below you.

Melee broken as fuck, deal with it.

[Potus]

You're right, it's probably more like 82.5-89% of the time you're hitting for max.