Dispell mobs suddenly a bit strong?

[Speedi]

I don't mind getting dispelled cause 99% of the time I am running a minimum of 3 junk buffs from the top slot down to counter this. It's the times my first 2 slots gets dispelled, then it skips the next 2 slots and moves to my real buffs and takes 1-2 of those. That's not classic. As I said before dispel should work from the top slot down.

Example:

Grim Aura
See Invis
Jboots
Levitate
Mask of the Hunter
Bladecoat
Natureskin
Regrowth

In *Classic* EQ if you got dispelled it would dispel from the top down i.e. Grim Aura down. At the moment I have been losing Grim Aura, See Invis, then it will skip down to my real buffs and take Mask of the Hunter or NS or both etc. Or the same mob dispelling might just take the first two/three. I just dont remember it being like this at all. On live (Current Content) thats another thing.

[Haynar]

Clickies not doing random 8's. Will get on eqlive and test.

Would make junk buffs more reliable.

Might be something to look for on potions too.

Will investigate.

H

[Daldaen]

What mob wiped out 4 buffs?

Tash is unresistable and so are dispells, so level 30 mobs should do that.

They DEFINITELY cast Dispell too much, the caster AI favors it a lot.

[Speedi]

It's happened to me on several mobs since newest patch. But most recently on a froglok tactician and guk wizards (lord camp) this morning.

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[46290]

Was kiting Goblins and Sarnaks in LoIO today and they were doing the same thing. LOTS of dispel casts. They would skip over the Junk (Gobbo earring, bracer of hidden, jboots) and end up eating my MR/HP buffs.

[Man0warr]

The only thing that removes 4 in a single cast is Recant right? So only enchanter mobs should have that.

Stuff like the gazers in Sky are totally suck now though - but they have AE dispels. Don't pull them if you don't have to (but that's Classic).

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What mob wiped out 4 buffs?

Rosch Mal Gnoll

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At the moment I have been losing Grim Aura, See Invis, then it will skip down to my real buffs and take Mask of the Hunter or NS or both etc. Or the same mob dispelling might just take the first two/three. I just dont remember it being like this at all. On live (Current Content) thats another thing.

Ya, funky algorithm at play here. I had two important buffs in slot 1/2 and got a bit worried that they'd get dispelled. Meanwhile Grim Aura and something else junky was in slot 3/4. I got dispelled and lost 3/4 not 1/2.
So.....

[GinnasP99]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, they shouldn't dispel random buff slots like they are currently doing. Depending on the level of the spell cast buffs should be dispelled from the top slot down.

This. PLEASE change the random buff removal. I want my shadowbond back. (its also not classic, why do you think people loaded their first 5 slots with junk)

[tristantio]

Root a felwithe guard and you can test this very easily, as it's their only spell other than a root of their own.

I've had them dispel Arch Shielding/Dead Man Floating (slots 3 and 4) and completely bypass the Jboots / Lich in slot 1 and 2 since patch.

[Daldaen]

Yea if that is happening then the game is rolling high numbers on JBoots/Lich, and when they cast Cancel Magic, it does eat off 4 counters from each of those (Lets say 6 and 8.. ending at 2 and 4), but your Arch Shield / DMF had low numbers of counters so they got eaten.

Counter amount should scale based on spell level IMO and be a static number. Clickies should always be deemed as "Level 1" spells and have a counter of 1. That way the insta-clicky junk buffness should function as is intended.