"Classic" feeling shifting?

[Leopaz]

though I played from the beginning, Luclin and PoP were definitely my favs. Gates burned me out, so by Omens I straight quit

[h4tch]

I would play PoP if Luclin didn't exist, and no PoK ports.

[webrunner5]

I still play live and have 3 toons level 100. Lot more toons less. I have a ton of fun on there even on the latest expansion because it is a new challenge.

I mean I like it a lot here and I play the Sleeper server also so pretty much the same as P1999. But I have been playing EQ since 2000. So it can get boring going to the same zones, same gear, so that is the reason I still play live. I have more people on friends list on Live than here. There are people I play with that I played with in 2000 yet on live.

But I am retired and have the time, so not knocking people that have limited time to play. I would probably just play on here if I was still working with a family. Live is a pretty big commitment to do all the quests to even get into the new zones. You can't just go to any zone without a lot of work involved like here. Well there is a few quests here like Seb and HS keys, but they are easy as hell compared to live to get. YMMV.

[Stormfists]

Well as a community I'm sure we have plenty of smart people, not me... but im sure someone / a group of somenoes could make our own custom planes P99 style once Velius endgame has been rinsed dry:

- Plane of Mischief
- Plane of War
- Plane of Disease
- Plane of Nightmare
- Plane of Earth

All in classic textures, with a sort of "layout" and "boss types" of the PoP/expansions - but actually decent, with a Fear/Hate/Growth feel to them. The thing is these MUST be raid zones only to avoid population dilution via more zones to group in.

This wouldnt affect the social side, or the casual groupers - just gives the server more depth and the feeling that there is still something to achieve rather than thudding the fleshy wall over and over in ToV which is what many of us will be doing in a year or twos time.

TLDR; a couple/few custom P99 raid zones with thoughts of post-classic expans but with classic feel/textures/behaviors.

TLFR; before anyone says "not classic", this servers stopped being classic pretty much after Kunark with all the custom tweaks.

[Secrets]

I still think EQ1 without the classic planes (Sky, Hate, Fear) would be a great server in itself if it never progressed past classic.

Realistically speaking, Velious and Kunark have very little content that reminds me of the style of content in the original release. When you found an item with stats in pre-Kunark, you either had to farm for days or go to Lower Guk/Nagafen's Lair - and even then, the two major dungeons felt out of place realistically speaking from a content perspective.

Prior to those dungeons, you had to farm all over the world to get your drops and gear as opposed to just two dungeons on the same continent. There was virtually no point in the many merchant-sold weaponry or classic crafted after getting a SSoY or one of the many other visible armor slot drops in both of those zones.

Maybe I just hold the newbie experience in high regards, but I still think it's a bit silly to have Mithril BPs dropping in Nagafen's Lair around the same time you'd probably make enough plat to make Fine Plate armor.

It's almost like two different developers had designed half of the content. It's weird. I really don't know how to explain it other than 80% of the content gets invalidated with Kunark, and there's so much of it in the game prior that gets overlooked.

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by Stormfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLFR; before anyone says "not classic", this servers stopped being classic right about when my autofire was bannable lol.

That's not classic. In fact, they would have banned you back in 2000 given the chance because it's against the Verant EULA if they could detect it.

There was a period in classic where they could see processes running on your PC which got overturned by at-the-time consumer rights activists, so that's definitely classic.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still think EQ1 without the classic planes (Sky, Hate, Fear) would be a great server in itself if it never progressed past classic.

Realistically speaking, Velious and Kunark have very little content that reminds me of the style of content in the original release. When you found an item with stats in pre-Kunark, you either had to farm for days or go to Lower Guk/Nagafen's Lair - and even then, the two major dungeons felt out of place realistically speaking from a content perspective.

Prior to those dungeons, you had to farm all over the world to get your drops and gear as opposed to just two dungeons on the same continent. There was virtually no point in the many merchant-sold weaponry or classic crafted after getting a SSoY or one of the many other visible armor slot drops in both of those zones.

Maybe I just hold the newbie experience in high regards, but I still think it's a bit silly to have Mithril BPs dropping in Nagafen's Lair around the same time you'd probably make enough plat to make Fine Plate armor.

It's almost like two different developers had designed half of the content. It's weird. I really don't know how to explain it other than 80% of the content gets invalidated with Kunark, and there's so much of it in the game prior that gets overlooked.

bless this post, so many yes, totally agree 100%

Its as obvious to me as if you were to look at the level design and art of Mistmoore or High Hold Keep and then look at Howling Stones or KC.. pre planer classic classic server would be my favorite thing in life.

[Tankdan]

Server was made with AAs disabled.. id imagine reverting back to AAs and coding the changes would take forever and not be doable in meaningful timeline.

To me, classic is Release till PoP. I realize thats a whole lot of expansions, but thats when I played EQ as a teenager, thats when EQ hit its prime as far as subscribers, thats EQ to me.

[myriverse]

My stepdad's still griping about them considering GnR and Black Crowes "classic rock."

[Mentathiel]

For my part, the issue with post-Velious content was that it made the world smaller. Right now, unless you are a wizard or druid, you can't jump across the continents and back without help. The current server population are friendly enough that you can usually get a port for a corpse-run and maybe even a rez if you are lucky, but a trip from Freeport to Qeynos is an adventure for me. Getting a port is a special treat or a necessary evil, not something I do regularly.

With SoL, Luclin suddenly became a transit hub and I can't imagine anyone ever needing to grab a port when you can just use Luclin. PoP was even worse; the PoK made even the run from Crushbone to Kaladim (with belts) redundant because you could teleport.

Were the newbie-armour quests kind of nice? Of course. Would I mind seeing beastlords? Not at all. Do I miss Vah-Shir? Yes. Is the Bazaar better than EC? Maybe, maybe not. Are those things worth the loss of the classic feeling? No, not to me...

As people have said, there are other servers who go beyond Velious or have variant rules like accelerated exp or higher drop rates. I mean, there's even Shards of Dalaya which is not even EQ as we know it. I play P1999 because I was happy in the SoV era and P1999 helps me recapture that era.