How to do Kedge Keep

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't you want to use your higher level "Calm Animal" as he suggests instead of your level 1 "Lull Animal"?

Why? Why use a spell that has identical functionality if it costs more mana? Just like for fights <3min I'll use snare instead of ensnare... cause it costs less mana and does vertually the same thing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[Tokum-6n0m3]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? Why use a spell that has identical functionality if it costs more mana? Just like for fights <3min I'll use snare instead of ensnare... cause it costs less mana and does vertually the same thing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Calm Animal has better resist checks and last longer, is the only reason....if your not getting resist or having to recast.....Lull is the way to go....

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? Why use a spell that has identical functionality if it costs more mana? Just like for fights <3min I'll use snare instead of ensnare... cause it costs less mana and does vertually the same thing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

I was under the impression the lower level spells resists more... is that not true here on P99?

[Nedala]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? Why use a spell that has identical functionality if it costs more mana? Just like for fights <3min I'll use snare instead of ensnare... cause it costs less mana and does vertually the same thing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Ensnare lasts way longer, and probably gets ressisted less, not sure about that tho.

[Noselacri]

Spell level has no influence on resists. Some spells have inherent resist modifiers, like Lures and such, but most don't. Snare has the same chance of getting resisted as Ensnare, Lull has the same chance as Pacify, etc. Resists are affected only by your level vs. mob level, the mob's resists, and individual spell resist modifiers.

[fuji]

Can you still use the eye of zomm trick on phinny to pull? That wasnt fixed until early Velious.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Okay, this is bugging me, so I went and researched it. Except I don't know if this is classic or not, but it would certainly explain why there would be a spell and its upgraded version available:

Lull Animal:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...40&source=Live

1: Frenzy Radius (15/30)
2: Reaction Radius (25/30)
3: Pacify

If a social aggro mob is within 25 units of the mob with the Lull on it, the Lulled mob will aggro. If the player comes within 15 units of the mob with the Lull on it, the Lulled mob will aggro. The 30 is the max level of the mob the spell will work on.

Calm Animal:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...13&source=Live

1: Frenzy Radius (5/50)
2: Reaction Radius (10/50)
3: Pacify

Calm Animal has a level max of 50.

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=64

According to this, only some of the Lancers and one type of pirahna could spawn at or below level 30, everything else you'll encounter in the place is higher than 30, therefore if Lull Animal is working on anything but a few lancers and the pirahna, it's a bug and needs to be reported. You should be using Calm Animal for the majority of the pulls if things were working correctly.

[Daldaen]

Nope it works on blue and red cons to me (45) so Lull works up to 50 regardless of what the spell data says.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope it works on blue and red cons to me (45) so Lull works up to 50 regardless of what the spell data says.

Sounds like a bug then :P