9/11 - Inside Job?

[VictoryARC]

As opposed to a wacked out conservative majority. I wish both polar ends of the political spectrum would just shrivel up and die. Why can't the moderate voices be just as strong as the wackjobs on the far left and the stupid teabaggers on the far right.

[Eccentricaa]

Folks hate Obama.. They hated the Bushes.. They disliked Clinton because he got a BJ..

But ALL OF THEM have the same advisors, the same people running most of the larger departments.

There is no difference between them.


Turn off any for profit news station. Especially anything owned by Newscorp.


As far as socialism... Its been here, longer than you have. You are probably here alive today because of it.

Public libraries, roads, bridges, police, fire stations, EMS, schools, social security, medicare, parks, even your utilities, and your precious world wide web are ALL SOCIALIST (in the beginning, most are now controlled by for profit companies) Hell, even the farm subsidies, that provide you with cheap food are socialist.

Capitalism is the problem IMO.
(before you bash that statement, hear me out.)

A government wants to build a road. It used to directly hire the individuals to build the road. It used to buy the materials to build the road. The government would build the road. There were once good paying government jobs, with benefits, retirement, etc. Those people tried to do a good job, in order to keep their job.

With capitalism, A government wants to build the road. It wastes time getting bids on the road. Goes with a company who may or may not be the lowest bidder, maybe the CEO is a college buddy, or a company the elected official previously worked for. That company, out to make a profit, hires the cheapest labor, buys and uses the cheapest material, does a rush job (because there's more money to make elsewhere). We end up with a road, that needs repaired the year later. Its not in that company's best interest to provide a long lasting quality job. Its better for the industry if they dont. That company's interest is in making money, and not serving the people of the country.

The government ends up paying more money, for a road of less quality.

Thanks to capitalism -
* * Our tax dollars subsidized the creation of the internet, paid the utility companies to lay the lines, and yet that company still charges us to access the lines WE already paid for through tax dollars.
* * Our tax dollars help pay for the power stations, the utility lines, including emergency funding after a major storm, and yet we still pay for profit companies to have the luxury of turning on the light?
* * Our schools in most states now have for profit companies that provide school lunches, run sporting events, run the school bus systems, and even hiring 'educational consultants' to determine curriculum. These area all companies that are creating profits by providing less.
If I send my kid to school with 2 bucks a day for school lunch, why in the fuck is she getting 30cents worth of food? How much does it really cost to make mac and cheese, bean burritos, mashed potatoes, or 3 fish sticks?
* * A portion of every home owners property tax is used to pay for things like local hospitals, zoos, city beautification,
* *The Obamacare policy forces people to pay into FOR PROFIT companies to buy insurance, or be penalized through the IRS system. If Obamacare was an actual socialist policy, it would be a non profit system that is controlled and owned by the public, and not 'for profit' companies.

By definition, socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.

Why wouldn't you want to control the things you already pay for? To have some say in how your money was spent. This is money your already spending. Emptying your pockets of your hard earned money, and handing it over to for profit companies.

If you remove the profit, you get the same thing, for less money.

[taxi2]

In the end it doesnt really matter who did it.
Did it really matter who started the reichstag fire?

What really matters is what the right-wingers did with this golden opportunity. To be honest, im going to NYC in 5 days and i will look at it sorta like someone would look at the titanic before it floats away towards NY. Im not sure american democracy can survive one more terrorist attack like 9/11. And if 9/11 was an inside job, its only a matter of time.

[Glaani]

Originally Posted by Eccentricaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as socialism... Its been here, longer than you have. You are probably here alive today because of it.

Public libraries, roads, bridges, police, fire stations, EMS, schools, social security, medicare, parks, even your utilities, and your precious world wide web are ALL SOCIALIST (in the beginning, most are now controlled by for profit companies) Hell, even the farm subsidies, that provide you with cheap food are socialist.

Thank you for saving me the trouble of posting this. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[taxi2]

What eccentrica said ^^^

I always get a chuckle when my american host in NY talks about obama as a communist, as socialist as if it was evil (and as if obama was anything other than a center-right politician). I know i only have to use this argument to completely demolish his viewpoint, but i leave politics alone when i visit the US.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

9/11 was made out of steel. steel can't catch fire, it's made out of metal. Therefore george bush.

All metals burn at hot enough temperatures. In fact metal fires are classified usually as Delta fires because they are so hard to put out and generally are self sustaining.

[tj218]

Originally Posted by Eccentricaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True. Puppets don't always know the plans of the puppet master. Idiots are easy to manipulate. Just look at Fox New's viewers.

Bush is still the only US president to serve, that did not win majority vote..
Does anyone actually remember the riots that took place across the country? The protesters at his inauguration, throwing eggs and stuff at the motorcade? What about his being the worst approval rating of any president in modern history (pre 9-11) Or were you too young to remember all that?

No war is about honor. Everything this government does, is about money for someone.

Faux news, is owned and controlled by foreign interests. The "Terror Mosque" is being funded by one of Fox New's main owners (largest owner outside the Murdoch family) Alwaleed Bin Tala through the 'Kingdom Foundation. (Which btw, is also a buddy of Bush Jr & Sr.)

Divide and conquer... Fox news is doing a great job at that. Keep the country divided on stupid meaningless issues, Gay rights, abortion, etc. While everyone is getting screwed, everyone loosing their houses, their jobs.. While we continue to enslave our children to the private bankers of the Federal Reserve.

If the other side, can conspire to do something like 9/11 and pull it off, why isnt it possible that we can do the same?

America has already proven its government is willing to loose our citizen's lives to achieve their monetary goals. As far as staging an event, to rally the country behind a war, its been done before by our government, as well as most other governments around the world. There were staged events that took us into Vietnam, Korea, WW1 and 2. Sunken ships, ignored warnings, and massive losses of American lives. Nazi's had their Reichstag fire... we had our 9/11.

/salute Eccentricaa: All the co-conspirators in all these events kept this such a good secret but Eccentricaa is the one human being that knows "the truth."

Please tell me what the next great world event that is actually a conspiracy is.....or better yet why don't you stop shitting in a sock and prevent it?

[tj218]

Originally Posted by Eccentricaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Capitalism is the problem IMO.
(before you bash that statement, hear me out.)

A communistgovernment wants to build a road. It used to directly enslave at gunpointthe individuals to build the road. It used to steal, or forced other laborers to get the materials to build the road. The government would build the road. There were once good paying government jobs, with benefits:you get to live another day Those people tried to do a good job, in order to keep their lives.

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If you remove the profitand force at gunpoint, you get the same thing, for less money.

Fixed!

[taxi2]

Originally Posted by tj218 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fixed!

lol right, a hundred cuban rebels took an island of 6 million people by forcing them to work at gunpoint. That shit is waterproof son. Just ask Ann Coulter.

[taxi2]

Of course stalin was like that, but thats like pointing at bush and saying all democrats are like him. Seeing in black and white never works out.