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Old 07-09-2015, 01:44 PM
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1) eliminate a defunct game economic system
2) loot camps no longer permacamped
3) Having to actually go out into the world and get things
Think about it for a minute instead of going all kneejerk.

Why are cash camps permacamped? Is it because people enjoy stockpiling FBSS after FBSS on alts just for the hell of it? Nope. It's because those people can and do sell those FBSSes because a lot of people want them. So what happens when everything is no drop? Is frenzy suddenly going to be open for most of the day? Of course not. Just as many people want FBSSes as before, they'll just need to be camping it themselves (perhaps with a 60 main and then just switching over to an alt to loot it).

And that isn't even getting into the whole issue of selling looting rights.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:47 PM
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Trading was such a big part of the classic eq experience. There are people who did more trading than playing.

Plus some camps are awful for some classes and kills pick up group prospects when there is no loot for them there but ample loot for others.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:55 PM
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Trading was such a big part of the classic eq experience. There are people who did more trading than playing.

Plus some camps are awful for some classes and kills pick up group prospects when there is no loot for them there but ample loot for others.
I think current blue is great for those who like to tunnelquest. It's not for me though. I'd prefer to loot my gear and have camps available to level-appropriate toons. I don't like when I go into guk and there are three 60s holding down all the loot camps. The result is, no one groups there. Kinda defeats the purpose of the game imo. But that's just a personal opinion.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:50 PM
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Making everything nodrop would fix nothing. The bad here is 100% derived from the behavior & attitudes of the people who make up the community, as is the good. There is no silver bullet mechanical solution to the bad. No rule or law has ever transformed an asshat into a mensch.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:52 PM
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The bad here is 100% derived from the behavior & attitudes of the people who make up the community, as is the good. There is no silver bullet mechanical solution to the bad. No rule or law has ever transformed an asshat into a mensch.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:23 PM
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Making everything nodrop would fix nothing. The bad here is 100% derived from the behavior & attitudes of the people who make up the community, as is the good. There is no silver bullet mechanical solution to the bad. No rule or law has ever transformed an asshat into a mensch.
Yes, Blue is toxic. The community isn't anything like on live. The sheer hatred and lack of respect for one another is mind blowing considering this is an emulation server that shuts down whenever 3 guys decide to shut it down.

That being said, FV's rule set was amazing. You could trade just about anything. TLC prevent high level characters from camping "stupid" stuff and epic pieces didn't fall under TLC. One character per account was a blessing in disguise.

It also made running a top raiding guild on that server so much easier for me. Loot everything, then do loot at the end of the night.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:35 PM
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Yes, Blue is toxic. The community isn't anything like on live. The sheer hatred and lack of respect for one another is mind blowing considering this is an emulation server that shuts down whenever 3 guys decide to shut it down.

That being said, FV's rule set was amazing. You could trade just about anything. TLC prevent high level characters from camping "stupid" stuff and epic pieces didn't fall under TLC.

It also made running a top raiding guild on that server so much easier for me. Loot everything, then do loot at the end of the night.
I played on FV for a while, don't have fond memories. What I remember is an unfriendly player population with lots of little cliques and very little pickup grouping, TLC turning certain quests into a huge pita, and the RMT scandal involving some raid guild(s) leader(s) selling epics & planar armor for RL cash. Lotta selfishness on FV, or so it seemed to me, it was my least favorite community of the servers I played on live.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:28 PM
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:51 PM
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No drop + trivial loot code + no exp res + 2x exp gain server please.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:03 PM
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would be cool imo. first blue post that wasnt gay as hell. gratz.
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