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[Kutsumo]

Agro from melee attacks is all about potential damage. Potential damage with your mainhand weapon is related to both the damage of the weapon and the mainhand damage bonus. Faster weapons often pull ahead in DPS as you hit the mid 40s and 50+ because of the damage bonus being applied more often, but it can only do so much. Can anyone confirm that lamentation never has more DPS potential than Wurmslayer even at 60?

[Auchae]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agro from melee attacks is all about potential damage. Potential damage with your mainhand weapon is related to both the damage of the weapon and the mainhand damage bonus. Faster weapons often pull ahead in DPS as you hit the mid 40s and 50+ because of the damage bonus being applied more often, but it can only do so much. Can anyone confirm that lamentation never has more DPS potential than Wurmslayer even at 60?

Just by looking at the dmg/delay numbers on several weapons available to the warrior, I'm going to say it does not have potential to out dps the Wurmy. With a ratio under(over? it's a .47) .5 and no proc to accompany it, I think it's just an outclassed weapon and should be replaced at the higher end as soon as you can.

[Roguejm11]

So just to follow up, 3 different situations. Lets use a level 25 warrior for the example.

1kpp to spend: which 2 weapons?

5kpp to spend: which 2 weapons?

10kpp to spend: which 2 weapons?

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by Roguejm11 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So just to follow up, 3 different situations. Lets use a level 25 warrior for the example.

1kpp to spend: which 2 weapons?

5kpp to spend: which 2 weapons?

10kpp to spend: which 2 weapons?

I base my opinion on leveling quickly and keeping agro by doing more DPS sub 50. You could swap for proccing weapons if that's your thing.

1k: Staff of Battle (~800p) or Jagged Long Sword (~700p) + Jarsath Trident (~100p)
5k: Staff of Battle (~800p) + Wurmslayer (~2.5-3k) + Jagged Long Sword (~700p)
10k: I don't see a reason to spend more, but you could go ahead and bank your Sarnak hammer and Silken whip for level 50.

Replace Jagged Long Sword with Fist of Zek if you are Troll/Iksar and you can keep agi above 75 with it equipped.

Also make sure to buy cheap weapons of every weapon type and try to keep skills capped. You'll still be able to keep agro even with a weapon skill of 0 thanks to the way agro works, but it sucks leveling a skill from scratch when you get a new weapon that you haven't trained.

[Roguejm11]

Thanks for the thoughts!

I am still working toward 60 on my main so the warrior thought is a long way off, but it seems fun.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agro from melee attacks is all about potential damage. Potential damage with your mainhand weapon is related to both the damage of the weapon and the mainhand damage bonus. Faster weapons often pull ahead in DPS as you hit the mid 40s and 50+ because of the damage bonus being applied more often, but it can only do so much. Can anyone confirm that lamentation never has more DPS potential than Wurmslayer even at 60?

Primary hand damage bonus for levels 58 - 60 is 11, so...
Wurmslayer's 25 base damage gives 61 modal (25*2+11), 61/40 = 1.525, vs.
Lamentation's 9 base damage gives 29 modal (9*2+11), 29/19 ~ 1.5263

Looks essentially equal to me: a less than 1/1000th relative damage/agro edge for lamentation in modaldamage/delay vs. the tiny edge wormslayer gains because delay does not apply to the first swing of an engagement. (Unless I'm hungover and failed at the math.)

[williestargell]

You need to remember at low level there are no huge hits. You are damage capped and no weapon is more affected by the damage cap than wurmslayer.

[Pint]

Wurmslayer is bad, get fast wpns

[Madbad]

wurmslayer wins fashion quest, that's the only thing you need to worry about

[Roguejm11]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Primary hand damage bonus for levels 58 - 60 is 11, so...
Wurmslayer's 25 base damage gives 61 modal (25*2+11), 61/40 = 1.525, vs.
Lamentation's 9 base damage gives 29 modal (9*2+11), 29/19 ~ 1.5263

Looks essentially equal to me: a less than 1/1000th relative damage/agro edge for lamentation in modaldamage/delay vs. the tiny edge wormslayer gains because delay does not apply to the first swing of an engagement. (Unless I'm hungover and failed at the math.)

Sooo... what you are saying is that I could go full on fashion quest. I could make a DE warrior in full crafted gear with 2 lammy's and have about the same dps/agro as someone using a Wurmy.