DayBreak - Titanium Client

[Tsalarioth]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first time they are able to prove that p99 is taking from their potential player base (and profits) one of two things will happen.

a. C&D letter. Game over.
b. An offer is made to the people in charge of p99 and it becomes a part of daybreak at least in some capacity. (Not saying cash shop etc. just a choice on the Live server selection) and likely become subscription based.


I'd actually have 0 problem being charged a sub to play on this server if it was a fresh start.

I honestly don't think it's taking from their player base and I'm pretty sure they don't either. There are lots of people who play on both P99 and Live. There are also a *lot* of people on Live who have no desire to play on P99, whether it be due to lack of opportunity to raid on a regular basis and top heavy nature of the server, or due to the fact that there are actually a lot of people who enjoy the comforts of modern EQ and have no desire to return to the days of corpse runs and hell levels.

I think offering a download of the Titanium client for $10 or so would be a great way for them to make some money and it wouldn't realistically take anyone with a current paid sub away from their servers. Even better would be a legitimate version of the patched client for P99.

[Enderenter]

Originally Posted by theguyy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I assure you they have a big problem with p99, it's just easier to pretend to embrace then it is to kill it.

When Daybreak goes on twitch and every stream is p99 99% of the time I promise you they aren't happy. My prediction is this Daybreak "alliance" will have more and more conditions as time goes on.

Yeah, their problem is that their biggest idea for EQ so far is a progession server. (That happens to be vastly inferior to p99)

[alcoma23]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first time they are able to prove that p99 is taking from their potential player base (and profits) one of two things will happen.

a. C&D letter. Game over.
b. An offer is made to the people in charge of p99 and it becomes a part of daybreak at least in some capacity. (Not saying cash shop etc. just a choice on the Live server selection) and likely become subscription based.


I'd actually have 0 problem being charged a sub to play on this server if it was a fresh start.

I agree. I would totally pay a sub fee to be able to play something like this from start. For now tho, I suggest donating what you can to the devs of P99. If, Tunare forbid, a C&D did come in from Daybreak, the donations would show them that there is a very healthy population of people who want to play EQ as close to classic as possible. Might encourage them to do something similar instead of dropping another farce of a progression server on us.

[Calibretto]

There would be a ton more people playing here if it wasn't such a shady pita to get a copy of Titanium. Even buying a copy of titanium from an online vendor takes days to get to you via shipping. Tons of people would roll toons on a new very refined classic server and tons of people who don't currently play EQ would subscribe to come check it out too...

I can imagine this conversation or one like it has occurred over 1000 times on this forum but w/e.

[Calibretto]

Originally Posted by Tsalarioth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly don't think it's taking from their player base and I'm pretty sure they don't either. There are lots of people who play on both P99 and Live. There are also a *lot* of people on Live who have no desire to play on P99, whether it be due to lack of opportunity to raid on a regular basis and top heavy nature of the server, or due to the fact that there are actually a lot of people who enjoy the comforts of modern EQ and have no desire to return to the days of corpse runs and hell levels.

I think offering a download of the Titanium client for $10 or so would be a great way for them to make some money and it wouldn't realistically take anyone with a current paid sub away from their servers. Even better would be a legitimate version of the patched client for P99.

If this were true I doubt the release of Velious would have been pushed back. I like the $10 dollar download idea though.

[Grimjaw]

the funny thing is, if they closed down p1999, they would probably lose more subs over it than gain

[Tsalarioth]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this were true I doubt the release of Velious would have been pushed back. I like the $10 dollar download idea though.

I think that was more in a hope that current P99 players will re-sub on live servers rather than the other way around. No one on live is thinking to themselves, "OMG! Velious!? I need to quit my 105 cleric that I've taken the time to get 12k AAs on to go spend 6 months leveling a brand new character to 60 so I can raid NTOV!" especially considering they probably spent plenty of time in Velious-esque zones and raids 2 expansions ago with re-vamped EW/Kael/CC/CTOV. As someone who has played both casually and raided at different points over the past few years on live, I just don't think there's the discontent or desire to re-play old content that the average P99'r thinks there is. Most people on live just want more new content, not rehashed old content, especially after 2 relatively small expansions with a very small number of raids.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first time they are able to prove that p99 is taking from their potential player base (and profits) one of two things will happen.

a. C&D letter. Game over.
b. An offer is made to the people in charge of p99 and it becomes a part of daybreak at least in some capacity. (Not saying cash shop etc. just a choice on the Live server selection) and likely become subscription based.


I'd actually have 0 problem being charged a sub to play on this server if it was a fresh start.

Ya I'd pay too for a fresh start. Best thing would be the GMs wouldn't be volunteer, but paid. No chance of corruption like we've experienced with Amelinda, Derubael, ect, and much better customer service overall. Definitely would support.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya I'd pay too for a fresh start. Best thing would be the GMs wouldn't be volunteer, but paid. No chance of corruption like we've experienced with Amelinda, Derubael, ect, and much better customer service overall. Definitely would support.

Proof on Derubael? Nobody has offered any. Clean until proven dirty imo.

We had some for Amelinda.

[Rararboker]

And I seem to remember this C&D letter thing being discussed before. If blizzard couldn't get WoW emu's shut down, what makes you think these venture capitalist (whatever they are) could get it done?