What would it take for a new mmo to recapture the feeling of eq?

[Roth]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think there's something to be said, perhaps an argument to be made about the role MMO immersion plays in the amount of time the average MMO player spends in game.

Most gamers I talk to outside of our secluded P99 world don't really want anything to do with an online gaming community. In fact, the sole reason a lot of people turn to video games is because they want an escape from social situations, not to be subsumed into them while they're trying to level up or acquire gear.

But on the main point here - that community defines the feeling of EQ - you're absolutely correct. I just tend to think that that's another problem as to why the game is so incredibly immersive and demands that you spend as much time playing it as you would spend in any other endeavor in your life. And at the end of the day, I don't think we'll ever see anything more than a small audience tucked away in the corner of the internet willing to broadcast a substantial amount of interest in it.

Or I dunno, maybe I'm wrong.

I disagree on the time point mainly because when I'm busiest irl this game has been what I've enjoyed the most to fill in the gaps. A lot of other games don't feel immersive but demand time, demand you be the best or strongest. Eq is just an experience I really find it fun to play even casually. My main problem is I actually tend to get burned out on eq; I can't play it for months without getting tired of it. In a way eq is bad for dev profitability because it kinda scares people away but it's really so fun to play and immersive.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

gm's

[iruinedyourday]

It would take whatever a Goldilocks Planet needs, to have life on it.

[Tann]

a time machine

Majority of the current mmo fan base wants quick sensational content. Mobas are a great example of this, you get geared and max level in under an hour. Quick rinse and repeat content for the masses to enjoy.

[nothsa]

I think having a hard game, where there are items that are overpowered and really make a real difference to game play. Haste clickers, res sticks, dot clickers, slow proc, sow boots, mana reg items etc. These all feel like real charater progression. few items in other mmos change your power level compared to other mmos

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

custom server -mostly the same but with intelligent tweaks.
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Can't though because you need a large population. Custom servers are known for hordenous populations, and that isn't fun at all.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a time machine

Majority of the current mmo fan base wants quick sensational content. Mobas are a great example of this, you get geared and max level in under an hour. Quick rinse and repeat content for the masses to enjoy.

Ya agreed. It's such a same that this "everyone can have the best items, and everyone can be the best" attitude has screwed up current MMO's. Heck I still love P99 to death, but after 2012 we've even had some of that stuff infused into our near perfection P99. PNP for red, mandated rotations for blue, Class C and Class R for blue, no training on red, no kill stealing on red, MQs for epics; all for the most part unclassic things. Thank goodness the server is still going strong, but some things shouldn't have been tweaked the way they were.

[Swish]

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen ... its your best hope.

[iruinedyourday]

To be honest, Day-Z I think inflamed my EQ itch.. it was the last game I played before I jacked into this and never did anything IRL ever again.

So, there is something there.. that game is shit.. but there is something it is scratching the surface of, that could be as awesome as EQ1999

[Ravager]

No MMO can do it, because EQ already did it. Any mmo who tried to do a classic formula would fail out of the gates because everyone who pays for a sub is ADD now and wouldn't play it. This community thrives because everyone who wants it is here and yet half the people here still want cats on the moon. The only people doing anything close to old school gaming is the Exile crew and as good at is it is, I don't see it being sustainable with their current model, something is gonna give.