Bard Song List Redesign

[ezri]

Adcid - I am copy/pasting what's on the song pages presently, updating them to cap out at lv60 will have to be a separate project. And I agree, I think that should be done as well.

[ezri]

Originally Posted by Adcid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love the Icons and detailed song information. I would gear the detailed song info to max level of 60 rather than 65. Looks great

With regards to sorting out the level range LV60 vs LV65

For Vilia's Verses of Celerity: AGI 23@L36) to 37@L65 for example would be the following:

Character Level: 60
LevelDiff: ( MaxLevel - MinLevel )
StatDiff: (StatAtMaxLevel - StatAtMinLevel)
CharacterDiff: (Character Level - MinLevel )
LevelStatRatio: StatDiff / LevelDiff
Stat: StatAtMinLevel + ( LevelStatRatio * CharacterDiff )

Character Level: 60
LevelDiff: ( 65 - 36 ) = 29
StatDiff: (37 - 23) = 14
CharacterDiff: (60 - 36 ) = 24
LevelStatRatio: 14 / 29 = 0.4828
Stat: 23 + ( 0.4828 * 24 ) = 34.5872

ROUNDDOWN( 34.5872 , 0 ) = 34
ROUND( 34.5872 , 0 ) = 35

Can any one with a level 60 bard log in and tell me how much AGI you get (without epic sword please) from Vilia's Verses of Celerity?
Thanks.

Assuming I can reach lv32 tonight, I can test this with Purifying Rhythms. ROUNDDOWN() will be MR20, ROUND() will be MR21.

[worch]

+35 agi from verses of celerity at 60.

I like the new look. The only issue I see is that the data is duplicated. It'd be preferable to transclude the data so that it is consistent in both the spell page and bard overview page. When I go to update spell data, its 1) extra work to then go update the bard page, and more importantly 2) people will forget resulting in inconsistent data.

Thanks for improving the wiki. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[worch]

Also, I would find it useful to have the spell slots added to each effect. This would help in quickly identifying which songs stack without having to open each page individually.

[ezri]

I got 21MR from Purifying Rhythms @LV32 so it looks like it's rounding to the nearest whole number rather than rounding down.
So what I'm thinking at the moment is to have the song stats like 20@LV45 , 35@LV60 , 40@LV65 so that we don't loose the LV65 part, but also have the LV60 for reference.

Worch: I completely agree that what we've got isn't idea and subject to get out of sync between the songs and the main page. I'm looking into how to use the templates to use {{:Chant of Battle}} as an include on the songs list - but that's going to need a lot of trial and error on my part, but the end product should be ok.

[worch]

Originally Posted by ezri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worch: I completely agree that what we've got isn't idea and subject to get out of sync between the songs and the main page. I'm looking into how to use the templates to use {{:Chant of Battle}} as an include on the songs list - but that's going to need a lot of trial and error on my part, but the end product should be ok.

The first idea that comes to mind is to create subpages for the duplicated data. For example {{:Chant of Battle/spellicon}}, {{:Chant of Battle/slots}}, {{:Chant of Battle/skill}}, {{:Chant of Battle/target_type}}, etc. Then in the bard overview page and in the chant of battle page, we'd transclude these common subpages.

[ezri]

Only problem I see with that is that there are scripts that troll the website to update search indexes. If we mess with the pages too much we might inadvertently break something. I'll look at it more next week.

[Tann]

small discrepancy, was probably there before the update, on the song list:

Lv12 Brusco's Boastful Bellow

Freeport
Kelethin

this is actually Freeport and Qeynos, if you click on the link for the song it shows the correct vendors but main page shows the above locations.

Also it lists a recast time of 30.00 which is also incorrect as you can spam this, should be 0.00

[worch]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

small discrepancy, was probably there before the update, on the song list:

Lv12 Brusco's Boastful Bellow

Freeport
Kelethin

this is actually Freeport and Qeynos, if you click on the link for the song it shows the correct vendors but main page shows the above locations.

Also it lists a recast time of 30.00 which is also incorrect as you can spam this, should be 0.00

Fixed both of those.

Look at that.. the redesign it helping the community identify wiki mistakes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[ezri]

Worch: it was probably my mistake - I ignored all the spell-list data and copy/pasted what was in each song page into a spreadsheet - most likely I checked the wrong location box for that one. From the spreadsheet; a little bit of scripting magic and BAM wiki markup to copy/paste.