Archery

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're using a windstriker on a raid mob with max dex you're being a bad person

If the stun is an issue just click BFG when the dragon comes for you, problem solved.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the stun is an issue just click BFG when the dragon comes for you, problem solved.

i hadnt thought of employing this strategy, brilliant

[Colgate]

arrows work like a damage bonus

pretty sure it's arrow damage * 3 added to your hit

so a 3 damage arrow would add 9 damage to the hit

aka why a faster bow is better

[ghost182]

what type of critical strike chance do we have when our dex is max?

What type of dps can these 2 bows, and the velium primal war bow( forget name ) put out taking into account:

1. double damage bonus (lets just assume we are able to get double on every shot) 2. critical strikes? 3. Maximem STR and Dex 4. 8 damage arrows

how do you factor critical strikes and double damage in? does it include the arrow damage or does that get added on after? how does STR and attack power factor into your damage?

[Ciroco]

There aren't simple answers to most of your questions; we don't know the inner workings of archery damage calculations well enough to just plug in numbers and spit out a value.

That being said:
-Crit chance should be identical to a Warrior's melee crit chance
-Strength has no impact on ranged damage
-Arrow damage, as far as I know, is added directly to bow damage before anything else
-Even with the perfect conditions you listed, archery damage will not be comparable to melee damage

[ghost182]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There aren't simple answers to most of your questions; we don't know the inner workings of archery damage calculations well enough to just plug in numbers and spit out a value.

That being said:
-Crit chance should be identical to a Warrior's melee crit chance
-Strength has no impact on ranged damage
-Arrow damage, as far as I know, is added directly to bow damage before anything else
-Even with the perfect conditions you listed, archery damage will not be comparable to melee damage

Never thought archery > melee. i'm only looking to understand how archery works here.

Specifically, I don't understand how the double damage bonus works. If windstriker is a 45/60 does that mean its a 90/60? if i have 255 dex, how does that actually affect the 45 damage? does attack rating also and if so how? would the double damage apply after taking my dex and attack into account? arrows? does the critical strike bonus damage include the double damage? or does the double damage double the crit?

i'm just not sure, and want to better understand this aspect of my class. there must be some player out there that has cracked the secret code to how archery works?

teach me.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by ghost182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there must be some player out there that has cracked the secret code to how archery works?

teach me.

The first step to optimizing damage with a Windstriker is obtaining one. This actually works with any bow.
High damage arrows. Cap dex. Fleeting quiver. Spell haste. +atk spells and effects. That's it.
And you'll probably be disappointed. Archery is simply supplemental, situational damage.

[Cecily]

Being able to do some damage out of AE range for 2 mins has an appeal to it. Really wish I got to mess around on beta w/ my ranger to get an idea of what to expect from trueshot discipline.

[Ciroco]

Yeah, that's the downside to Wind Saber. I don't think you can get outside of AE range with it.

[Ciroco]

Double damage should be the final multiplier on the damage calculation. So no, you can't just double the damage of the bow itself. One caveat though, I submitted a bug report a while ago for double damage shots doing odd numbered damage, which is weird (Edit: confirmed this is still happening).

Dexterity affects ranged damage the same way strength affects melee damage. It's not a simple calculation to determine exactly how much DPS that adds to any given bow.

Yes, attack matters. Again, I can't calculate exactly how.