Over from blue to red, which class to play?

[Buhbuh]

Enchanter if you're a man, Necro or Shaman otherwise.

Shaman will edge out Enchanter in certain ways come Velly.

[raka]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mediocre at best for pvp. Nightmare to play on raids.

Buffing peeps is annoying. You can be invincible in pvp with heal pots and every other potion. Did I say buffing peeps is annoying? Gotta do it, u is shmn

[Hijiri]

Originally Posted by Mudslinger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar necro is a good choice you can play without alot of gear , you can farm well later and they do decent in pvp if you arnt retarded

Who were you on sz ?

Mizferac

[iruinedyourday]

So, I wanted to share some advice, if you do decide to roll a shaman. First why not roll a shaman? Shamans set themselves up for disaster on red99. What I mean by that is, a shaman doing his thing at its best, is the easiest target for another player to get a YT.

Shamans kill things slowly, and they kill a lot of things at once. So if you are farming, you likely will have many things rooted and slowly dotting themselves to death. Think about how difficult a pvp engagement is going to be when you add 4 or 6 angry mobs breaking root, perma-agroed on you. Now think about that same pvp engagement that starts with you at about 40 or 50% health, because you're using the shamans ability to turn HPs into Mana... not very promising. These reasons are why shaman doing his job at its best, is setting himself up for disaster.

Now, if you do chose to roll a shaman, there's a funny thing about Race selection on red. Dont pick an ogre. Ogre on red is the worst of the shamans. This is because of a few reasons, but most importantly frontal stun immunity is basically worthless on a server, that doesn't allow duck casting. When you have 3 mobs on you, all bashing, you WILL get interrupted. On blue that's fine, you duck out of the cast and re cast, avoiding the 3-4 second frozen stun moment as an ogre (which make you feel invincible on blue) and getting right back into action. But on red, you cant interrupt that spell cast, you'll know your spell is going to get interrupted, but you cant stop it, and it was an epic click and now you have to wait 11 seconds to see that fantastic message, your spell has been interrupted. That said, if you were a class that was not immune to frontal stun, your spell timer bar would disappear on a bash, you'd get stuck, frozen in place for 3 seconds, and then be back casting a fresh, non interrupted version of the same spell. 11 Seconds > 3 Seconds and what you want is less time wasted, not more. The inability to break a cast, makes frontal stun a hindrance more than a boon on red.

Another thing to consider is regen on red is far more important than it is on blue... you wont find yourself kiting a mob around for a minuet or two to get more HP regen in, but you will find yourself doing that in pvp. So I personally suggest Iksar. The reason I suggest iksar over troll, is size also matters on red. A big shaman is an easy target in group pvp, or for a ganker, so if you are smaller, its a little easier for you to be unnoticed.. also it just feels so god damned easy to hit an ogre or a troll with melee attacks, its easier for a iksar to duck and weave.

tl;dr - dont make a shaman unless you know for a fact you can overcome the pain and you want to RP as one - dont make an Ogre cus frontal stun on red is null & void, make an iksar cus regen/size matters.

Hope this helps!

[Tameth]

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[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Tameth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Magikarp]

good advice tho never seen such a logical argument for shaman race on forums

hmm ikky sham lets do it boys. already an enc main how bad can it be??

oh and btw do yourself a favor and stop worrying about kill/death ratio asap. its an unofficial leaderboard with bugs and although its very cool, no one expects you to be a stellar pvp'er upon entering the server, regardless of what you read on the forums.

maybe on char 2, then you'll start to get the hang of pumice/pots/clickies etc, but just bear in mind some folk have been playing eq pvp for over a decade and there's no reason a death should get you down in pnp era


1 last advice: pvp early. dont do like i did and solo all the way to 60 and try to cut your teeth with the vets. its an interesting challenge in its own way but i missed out on a lot of easy/fun lowbie pvp

[Humerox]

server needs mages really bad high-end. seriously. people will luv you for coh alone and velious needs coh chains

you won't be a pvp hero tho

[Colgate]

if you're relying on mains for coth in velious, you're doing it wrong

shamans are one of the best solo and small scale pvpers in the game

would not want to raid on one, though

[sktank]

Yep I would say druid as well. You can find groups easier being able to port around and their aren't that many people to group with below lvl 40