Game Mechanics: Mend for Monks

[baub]

Originally Posted by Torqumada286 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean BW to 70%? It stops at 50% You have to be 51st level to BW to 70% and have a high BW skill, which you can't get until 51st level.

That is how it should work, but at the moment monks can bind to 70

[Torqumada286]

Originally Posted by baub [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is how it should work, but at the moment monks can bind to 70

At what level?

Torqumada

[MrSquirrelbane]

Originally Posted by Torqumada286 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At what level?

Torqumada

We can bind to 70% at level 40 or 41. It happens when skill level soft caps (red number) @ 200, but you keep getting skill ups. The moment bind wound hits 201 we can bind to 70%, even though the number is red @ 200 in your skills window. Not classic for sure, but I've heard before its a client side thing. IIRC a client side problem isn't something that can be fixed.

[Exeno]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any comments on this?

Wouldn't it be possible to ping the server upon zoning to ask if mend should be up or not and resync the client?

Everything works fine, stop ragging on the monks. Go play your ranger

[Kassel]

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[Aadill]

bump.

[toddfx]

So this new mend functionality is a purposely implemented feature? I certainly won't complain, but when I use it I feel like I'm exploiting!

Call me crazy, but I've been playing a monk for 8 months (Only level 31) and never noticed the mend timer would reset to its full duration when you zone. I knew of the false pop, but never actually timed it out.

[Aadill]

There was the original issue that the client's timer and the actual reuse timer were getting borked. This was something that was getting synced (or desynced) upon zoning. The solution was to cause the timer to reset via the client. While I agree that the client should reset the button, it should be asking the server if the ability should be usable and then reacting accordingly. Right now, however, it just resets upon zone and tells the server, "Hey, mend this guy!"

What I don't understand is why doesn't Harm Touch/Lay Hands have this problem, or are those abilities also resetting upon zoning? From what people have said it does not appear that way, so there has to be a way to fix it from something that is already implemented.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was the original issue that the client's timer and the actual reuse timer were getting borked. This was something that was getting synced (or desynced) upon zoning. The solution was to cause the timer to reset via the client. While I agree that the client should reset the button, it should be asking the server if the ability should be usable and then reacting accordingly. Right now, however, it just resets upon zone and tells the server, "Hey, mend this guy!"

What I don't understand is why doesn't Harm Touch/Lay Hands have this problem, or are those abilities also resetting upon zoning? From what people have said it does not appear that way, so there has to be a way to fix it from something that is already implemented.

I played a 60 monk on live from early Kunark into Luclin. The way mend worked there definitely didn't allow infinite mends.

Here's my recollection:

If you zoned while mend was on cooldown and its button was depressed, the button would be up upon zoning, but pressing it would just reaffirm the already processing cooldown. I remember I would do it after I zoned just so I would know the next time it was up again, but it wouldn't reset the timer. Otherwise, I would have abused the everliving crap out of that in Sol B and lguk (where I spent a majority of 55-60 soloing).

I've searched around, but I can't find positive evidence to affirm this. But I do know that NOWHERE on Monkly-business does it affirm positively that you could zone-mend ad infinitum. Even with longer zone times in 2000-2001, you think you'd see something...

[Aadill]

That's pretty much what I remember as well, Mess. As I said, the client DOES reset the button, but the server tells the client to accurately reflect the fact that the ability is still not available, so it then greys it out.