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Old 10-30-2015, 01:58 PM
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There has never been mentioned in any patch notes from Verant / SOE where they are stating that the guards are leashed or not. So they must have been leashed from day 1 of velious.
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:16 PM
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there are posts talking about pulling aaryonar by pacifying his guards so that he comes solo
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:19 PM
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there are posts talking about pulling aaryonar by pacifying his guards so that he comes solo
Really??

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Pacifies your target, lowering its aggressiveness for 42 secs (7 ticks). Affects creatures up to level 55.
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:32 PM
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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6457

2003 post, but still details that they weren't leashed at some point

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To pull Aary:

1) Enchanter (me) goes to the top of the steps (do NOT get above the steps or youre FOOKED cuz you slip and slide and come into his aggro range and youre dead :P).

2) Send Wizard1 eye up and out into pit, target Guard on left. Send Wizard2 eye up and out, target Guard on right.

3) Assist Wizard1 (who should be on steps behind you). Pacify (Recommend Cha over 250 for this) left guard. I had pacify resisted one time with 261 cha so far (pacified em 3 times, one wipe and one no-pull).

3) Assist Wizard2. Pacify right guard. Wizzys RUN back after this or they got no mana.

4) Drop into pit, TURN to make sure no interrupt, and tash (good thing to have an emote here to let the raid know he's pulled). As SOON as you drop into pit he's a comin so you gotta have your wits about ya. And he is not in range from the steps, though if you could possibly get your balance on that slippery spot you could tash from there, I've flubbed it before there so not a good idea.

5) MA standing on steps tags with bow when you're dead. He came single both times.
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We cleared Eashen's room, then paci'd the 2 drakes by the steps, pulled him donw by eashens room, had casters hide inside. Tried slamming him into a wall first time... he just poped thru it and cme back with friends. Have to realy balance push to keep him from going into walls.
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:36 PM
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there are posts talking about pulling aaryonar by pacifying his guards so that he comes solo
Tsk Tsk. Referencing posts from PoP era on Monkly Business...I mean level 65...AAs that affected Lull...Etc. Etc. Etc.





** Skills and Alternate Advancement **

- Channeling Focus was not giving bards the proper reduction to the
chance of missing a note._ It is now fixed and gives messages to
indicate when it is has helped.
- Corrected a problem that was causing Alternate Advancement buff
duration increase abilities and duration focus effects to negatively
affect lull spells.
- We have fixed a bug that could cause pick pocketed items to not show
up on your cursor until you zone. This could also sometimes cause the
client to crash.
- Added /stoptracking command so that you no longer have to re-open the
track window and hit cancel if you want to cancel your tracking
quickly.
- Activated AAs from Planes of Power were not working if the user did
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:37 PM
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Just search the guards names and look for posts on Zam...Womp Womp


From March 2002 a little out of era but the guards were still leashed then.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=7465

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Yeah... gotta kill em to clear to dragons so they don't aggro on you with the dragons and thus cause a CR which nobody wants to do...


Let's not defend a bug and fix it please.
You can interpret that quote in several different ways. It does not explicitly support or disprove leashing.

Also it is from after the Ring of Vulak was implemented.
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:39 PM
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There has never been mentioned in any patch notes from Verant / SOE where they are stating that the guards are leashed or not. So they must have been leashed from day 1 of velious.
Most of the content changes made to EQ were never mentioned in the patch notes.
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:42 PM
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You can interpret that quote in several different ways. It does not explicitly support or disprove leashing.

Also it is from after the Ring of Vulak was implemented.
I agree. It is not the most solid proof. It is just one string in support. Daldaen posted another example. There so far is more proof out there that they were than they weren't. When you research it for the era. Just not a lot out there because as you pointed out Patch Notes left a lot to be desired in a lot of areas. Most of us are going on very old memories that could be right or wrong. I am for either change to make it universal. Like you I want it classic. Whichever result this thread gets I support if it's proven classic.
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Old 10-30-2015, 03:13 PM
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Only in era proof I see thus far was caleros's stuff.

Technically even the dragons were not fully "leashed" to vulak. There were supposedly ways around it. Furor threw a massive fit over it.

Will post some links when home.
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Old 10-30-2015, 03:25 PM
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http://users.owt.com/progreen/tovpage.html

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Eashan is much faster than his guards, so will reach puller well ahead of his guards... as soon as puller dies, all 5 will turn back and head to room, this is where tagger steps out and tags Eashan. Should come single as long as tagger has sneak on.
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Aaryonar is the hard shell of NToV that ya gotta crack to get at the soft meat... and he is a pain. He has 2 guards, but can occasionally be singled (65 puller), do not remember much about them, other than they dropped fairly fast.
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