Game Mechanics: Cazic Thule (2.0) - PoFear - Knockback AE not present

[Arteker]

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24-07-2001, 15:13 #2
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Yes, he is unslowable by traditional means (honestly I don't know about rogue poison, we havent messed with it for the most part).
Yes, even unslowed he is doable with low numbers.


Basically it depends on a few things (just like all BGH mobs do):

First and foremost...How well does your group work together? If your clerics don't time heals right with each other, your tanks don't know how to gain/regain aggro or take over main tanking etc, then even with 60 people you'll have trouble.

Practice makes perfect on anything, raiding as a cohesive group takes a ton.

How prepared are you for that particular mobs abilities? Does it AE? Is it resistable and if so which resist? Can it be slowed? Does it dispell? What debuffs are worth using? Should melee be defensive or offensive? Which nukes will land? Are single target heals or group heals more efficient? Etc. In this particular case, it's learning to deal with his AE snare.


When in doubt and learning...zerg (but not to the point the resulting lag makes it even worse...ugh).
Once you've gotten some experience, cut the numbers.


ps...not giving specific strategies since you didn't ask for them necessarily and since some don't like spoilers *nod*

[Arteker]

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this was the patch the dude u are quoting referes and is when u actualy start getting the smg ,,,, this char cannot be slowed or inmune to run speed changes etc etc etc..

something actualy is wrong in our time frame as u getting this msg in mobs like the herdleader in cs when it should be snare ,,,, resisted and no than he is inmune to slow or snare

[Daldaen]

So a few posts on Allakhazam suggest slow ability. One post in 2007 claims unslowability, and the EQCleric 2001 post claims unslowability.

Would be nice to find more evidence on this to tip the scale in favor of one side or the other.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So a few posts on Allakhazam suggest slow ability. One post in 2007 claims unslowability, and the EQCleric 2001 post claims unslowability.

Would be nice to find more evidence on this to tip the scale in favor of one side or the other.

idk what to say dald , i know i farmed him for long in live asearlier as pop and he was always imposible to slow even with disease new line.

[Efwan]

Far more in era posts stating slowable. That eqclerics post is the only one suggesting otherwise, so maybe they had some bad rng or something but pretty sure he is slowable from all the research I have done/seen

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idk what to say dald , i know i farmed him for long in live asearlier as pop and he was always imposible to slow even with disease new line.

It's just your recollection isn't sufficient.

I wouldn't say it's outside the realm of possibility that CT is unslowable... But the majority of the evidence suggests he was.

But the quote in era, *most* state slowable. Only one guy claims he is immune to attack speed changes just after the patch you quoted. Then that same week someone else refutes that claim, stating he was slowable.

The Graffe resistance chart shows him as a high MR mob, but not high enough to be immune to magic effects. Lures and Lifetaps should be 100% hits and Magic spells should require full debuffs and even then be hit or miss.

EQLizier 2001

Approximate Level
63+


Approximate HP
150,000+


Approximate Damage Per Attack
Quad Attacks for 600 Each, Bashes For 250


Cazic Thule, Lord of Fear Special Abilities
Multiple Harm Touch
Single Target Fear
Single Target Dispell
Area Effect Knockback


Special Resistances
Resistant to Fire and Cold
Lure and Magic Work

[Treats]

The Avatar Snare or some other spell may have dispelled Cazic Thule (similar to Sontalak), I don't remember anyone slowing him after the Fear update.

He would Avatar Snare first then Avatar Power dispelling the snare and shooting you off (You needed top buff slot open or with jboots etc). Basically the strat was to put your clerics in the house with levitate to stop the knockback and hope your tanks resisted Fear.

[El Camacho]

I remember landing a slow on Cazic 2.0 the first encounter on our server. We had maybe 10 enchanters/shaman all trying and lost almost every single one in the first few minutes while trying to land slow. Quite difficult to land, but not impossible.

For what it is worth.