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Old 11-23-2010, 05:26 PM
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Once you are able to get in to SolA, Highkeep basement and places like that. You can easily get 100pp per grouping session 9well if you stay long enough) but looting all the fine steel and bronze weapons that the people you are grouping with won't be able to carry due to weight restrictions.

Anything that isn't fine steel don't loot unless it's stackable, pages, runes, words... and of course gems).

Your not going to have Yaks or a granite bracer for a long time so don't even think about stuff like that. Start with stun whips and work your way up to an Obsidian Shard.

But by all means spend as much time in Dungeons as possibly, not because you level faster, but simply because the value of the drops are that much more. As a new player with a warrior main you have no choice but to be a bit greedy. Veteran players will understand if you tell them your situation. Just be honest.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:51 PM
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its all about north ro / freeport zoneline decaying skeleton killing spree and sell stacks of bone chips. three backpacks full and you got yourself a polished granite tomahawk. 2 more and you got full bronze. get a bind in the west freeport newbie yard and kill orc in ec and wc or dervs in nro tilll you wanna head off to unrest or upper guk or oasis
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:04 PM
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After you outgrow the bone chip thing, head to uguk. Lots of high plat loot there. Most of the woven sells for a few plat each + the gems. Large bronze can be had for dirt cheap, and there's so much bronze around people are practically giving it away (they actually are, I had a full set by level 6). 1pp/AC is actually laughable, I have a bank full of bronze I can't get rid of... Unfortunately none of it's large, otherwise I'd offer it up.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:36 PM
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Thanks for the response guys. Is there some cheap way to get shrink cuz most these dungeon suggestions I can't ever walk in hehe.
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:53 AM
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Another question, because I'm an Ogre my dex is horrible for tanking aggro proc weapons. What dex should I shoot for to get enough procs without sacrificing too much health/ac? Right now my dex is 70. Also does the game recognize offhand delay, someone told me the game only checks your dual wield skill for whether you get an offhand attack making offhand delay inconsequential.
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:39 AM
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As far as offhand delay goes, I know on live (RIGHT NOW) Offhand delay + DW skill affects offhand weapons.

During Classic offhand delay was based off a ratio of main hand delay and DW skill (this is why items like Moss Covered Twig in main hand with a wurmslayer in offhand were so OP during kunark) What this means is that every time your MAIN HAND swings you have a chance based off your DW skill to swing with your offhand
Back during this time I cared alot more and did the testing/research to confirm this.

If offhand was based SOLEY like you had been told off of DW skill the moss covered twig would be a crap item and wasted main hand dps pre-nerf......tho the wurm slayer would still be nice if based off nothing but DW.

All this said, I am unsure of how it works on p99 as I have not parsed it or heard it said by a staff member how it works.....But if it is like it was in classic my italic section "should" be the way it works here....tho there are plenty of opinions out there of how it worked back then and how it works on p99 now, and very few ppl that actually take/took the time to test it themselves, the only way to know for sure is to hear it from a staff member or do the testing yourself

To test just make sure to use the same offhand weapon, get a fast delayed main hand and go out and kill 50 (50 is just a example, the accuracy of testing improves the more mobs you kill, but I'd do no less then 50) mobs of the same type and lvl ,parse how many times your offhand SWUNG(this is ALOT easier to see if you use 2 different weapon types)

Then take a slow delayed main hand and do the same test on the exact same mobs, parse how many times your offhand swung.(note you count how many times your offhand swung not just how many times it connected and did dmg)

If it is based off nothing but DW or Offhand delay the numbers should come out "roughly" the same, if its based in any way off main hand delay they should differ, biggest thing is to make sure you separate the differential in delays on main hand weapons as much as possible to give the best chances of seeing the difference.

a 5/21 main hand and a 6/24 are not gonna give you wide enough separation, try a 5/21 and 10/34 both these dmg/delays can be found for main hand in game now and should give you enough delay range

If it comes out roughly the same, change up your offhand weapons running the same test but by changing your offhand not your main hand, they should both swing about the same if its based off DW, they should vary significantly if its based off offhand delay


MAKE SURE YOUR SKILLS ARE MAXD FOR YOUR LVL AND YOU DO NOT LVL IN MIDDLE OF TEST AS IT WILL AFFECT THE ACCURACY OF THE TEST~

Hope this all helps, edited it 100x to try to make sure I got it right o-O
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:28 AM
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As far as offhand delay goes, I know on live (RIGHT NOW) Offhand delay + DW skill affects offhand weapons.

During Classic offhand delay was based off a ratio of main hand delay and DW skill (this is why items like Moss Covered Twig in main hand with a wurmslayer in offhand were so OP during kunark) What this means is that every time your MAIN HAND swings you have a chance based off your DW skill to swing with your offhand
Back during this time I cared alot more and did the testing/research to confirm this.

If offhand was based SOLEY like you had been told off of DW skill the moss covered twig would be a crap item and wasted main hand dps pre-nerf......tho the wurm slayer would still be nice if based off nothing but DW.

All this said, I am unsure of how it works on p99 as I have not parsed it or heard it said by a staff member how it works.....But if it is like it was in classic my italic section "should" be the way it works here....tho there are plenty of opinions out there of how it worked back then and how it works on p99 now, and very few ppl that actually take/took the time to test it themselves, the only way to know for sure is to hear it from a staff member or do the testing yourself

To test just make sure to use the same offhand weapon, get a fast delayed main hand and go out and kill 50 (50 is just a example, the accuracy of testing improves the more mobs you kill, but I'd do no less then 50) mobs of the same type and lvl ,parse how many times your offhand SWUNG(this is ALOT easier to see if you use 2 different weapon types)

Then take a slow delayed main hand and do the same test on the exact same mobs, parse how many times your offhand swung.(note you count how many times your offhand swung not just how many times it connected and did dmg)

If it is based off nothing but DW or Offhand delay the numbers should come out "roughly" the same, if its based in any way off main hand delay they should differ, biggest thing is to make sure you separate the differential in delays on main hand weapons as much as possible to give the best chances of seeing the difference.

a 5/21 main hand and a 6/24 are not gonna give you wide enough separation, try a 5/21 and 10/34 both these dmg/delays can be found for main hand in game now and should give you enough delay range

If it comes out roughly the same, change up your offhand weapons running the same test but by changing your offhand not your main hand, they should both swing about the same if its based off DW, they should vary significantly if its based off offhand delay


MAKE SURE YOUR SKILLS ARE MAXD FOR YOUR LVL AND YOU DO NOT LVL IN MIDDLE OF TEST AS IT WILL AFFECT THE ACCURACY OF THE TEST~

Hope this all helps, edited it 100x to try to make sure I got it right o-O
Nice. I'd be interested in seeing the results of such an experiment, or hearing from someone who's confident that they know how the mechanics work on this server.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:59 PM
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Just to help the original poster out... I made a wood elf warrior and have gotten him to level 21 in a little over a week as well as decking him out in really good gear for his level.

1) Farm lots and lots of skeletons
2) Sell about 50 stacks of bone chips @ 7-8pp a stack = 400pp
3) Buy full bronze + pgt
4) Farm another 50 stacks of bone chips
5) Repeat step 2
6) Buy an Obsidian Shard and 5ac 55hp rings.
7) ???
8) Go level some more and repeat steps 1-2 when you want to upgrade some crested/crafted stuff.
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:48 PM
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Thanks for the advice, so far I've got full banded and a PGT at level 11. What should I offhand with PGT?
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:53 PM
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Thanks for the advice, so far I've got full banded and a PGT at level 11. What should I offhand with PGT?
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