I forgot how mudflated live eq was

[wormed]

Originally Posted by rayeatts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strange how an ice-covered 2nd expansion was the peak for both games.

You forgot "imo." I think WoW began to suck within TBC and EQ was great until PoP.

[Swish]

PvP was worse as a result of TBC... arenas sucked compared to battlegrounds. Taking the titles and ranks out was a bad idea too.

Perhaps the worst was spending months grinding for items and a nice weapon only to see every player who never pvp'd in their life using them just before TBC launched. I earnt my shit, my rank, etc and they just gave it all away to everyone else.

Incentive not to play to the same extent etc.

[jcr4990]

WoW was good classic/BC. Wotlk started to suck. EQ was good through PoP and arguably Omens of War (Citadel of Anguish still one of the best raid zones in EQ history imo) and Proving Grounds/Riftseekers were amazing group zones. Some really good memories there pals. But after that it started to blow for sure.

[Colgate]

i thought WoW was great in TBC until the activision merger, shortly afterward they began adding things like daily quests, tons of badge of justice purchasable items that were better than entry level raid gear, removing and/or dumbing down attunement for raid dungeons, etc.

vanilla had its charm for certain things like the pvp honor system, but a lot of it was really, really poorly designed and i think TBC is when they finally started to figure it all out

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AT?

Audio Trigger. Most people use programs that gives you a audio alert or big writing on screen because there are mechanics of events that require you to respond within seconds of text being flashed on the screen in a chat box. I agree with Speedi i preferred raiding on Live(as of 2 years ago when i quit) 100x over to the simplicity that is raiding in this era of EQ. Dead weight doesnt really happen on live when it comes to raiding.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You forgot "imo." I think WoW began to suck within TBC and EQ was great until PoP.

Eq began to die when Luclin was released. It took its last breath when pop came out.

(Imo)

[rayeatts]

Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You forgot "imo." I think WoW began to suck within TBC and EQ was great until PoP.

Yeah, of course people have varying opinions on this. However I think that I share the opinion that a majority of players have. IMO of course.

[titanshub]

Originally Posted by rayeatts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This mirrors the exact same way I feel about WoW. The 2nd expansion, wrath of the lich king, was the peak for me.

Strange how an ice-covered 2nd expansion was the peak for both games.

At some point you need to stop adding new levels above 60, 70, 80, or whatever. Level 100 is just too much.

Both games pretty much became terrible when it got to a point where you would decide you wanted to roll a new character only to discover that there is literally nobody else to group with.

What would actually make the entire game(s) better is if they were always adding new starting zones, new leveling zones, new leveling dungeons, instead of always adding more end game content.

They forget that people want a game that has replay value. They mistakenly think that nobody wants to level a toon again.

Well that's true if they have to level it in the same exact place as the last 10 toons!

Bottom line for me is, I'd like to see the whole game expanded. Not just a new end game put on top of the other end game.

I quit playing in WoTLK but I don't remember harly ever grouping with anyone except doing 5 man instances with the grp finder. Now it was my first MMO since EQ so I did grind my Warlock up to 60 killing mobs and not questing. I learned later that was the hard way but at the time I thought "this is so much easier than EQ". Lol

[jarshale]

Check this shit out.
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It's crazy.

[Daldaen]

That's a bad weapon, not level 105, and not a raid weapon :/.