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[Sage Truthbearer]

You already have a priest class, an int caster, and a melee dps. Anything besides a Paladin would be a redundancy.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You already have a priest class, an int caster, and a melee dps. Anything besides a Paladin would be a redundancy.

I'd rather be a battle cleric.

[cdawgz28]

SK or bust

[azeth]

Bard is a pretty amazing utility class too. I personally would never roll one, but thats a useful class.

[JurisDictum]

Id say Paladin. You should have a tank with that many characters -- and knights are the generally the better way to go if you don't plan on undertaking a guild project (Warrior). Paladins are better than SKs in classic IMO. They have more useful raid utility and they are better at everything but pulling for the most part.

[Trungep99]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id say Paladin. You should have a tank with that many characters -- and knights are the generally the better way to go if you don't plan on undertaking a guild project (Warrior). Paladins are better than SKs in classic IMO. They have more useful raid utility and they are better at everything but pulling for the most part.

Sounds like another paladin's lies. SK's know many dark arts that allow them surpass a paladin in many ways.
SK spells cause higher agro to allow you to hold threat better.
SK's can pull better for raids with feign death which was the only truth given.
SK's offer 2 debuffs that do land on raid targets after tash and malo are applied. (the negative atk and ac debuff)
They life tap for self heals.
They offer slightly higher dps because they have a few dmg spells that do land on raid targets like boil blood & sex appeal of skeleton pet!
only thing a paladin can offer is a few spare heals to others , which in return will prevent them from hurting their raid target; while SK life taps do additional damage in return for the heal.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paladins are better than SKs in classic IMO. They have more useful raid utility and they are better at everything but pulling for the most part.

No debating SK is a great puller with FD but they have no means of calming, root pulling, or mitigating caster threat. They also don't have DA (granted it takes a lonnnng time before Paladins get all their awesome tools)

SK has some specific areas where they can pull "better" than a Paladin such as in "raid" situations with trainoffs. Other than this, a Paladin with levels and CHA is nothing to fuck with and an SK isn't exactly a "better" puller as much as a "more easily accessible to nubs" puller with niche "raid" utility.

I do agree that Paladins are awesome, however the hivemind believes that Paladins cant pull and everybody who has never played a paladin believes that there is no reason for a Paladin to calm. They are horribly mistaken.

[Trungep99]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No debating SK is a great puller with FD but they have no means of calming, root pulling, or mitigating caster threat. They also don't have DA (granted it takes a lonnnng time before Paladins get all their awesome tools)

It is true calm is great for all classes that can use for pulling and i encourage people to not forget about this wonderful spell. Yes paladins can pull with calm, but to defend the greatness of an SK here is my response.

I)*SK's can cast calm undead.* ^_^

II) SK's feign pulling is more useful for single pulling than calm. because Calm can fail and no way to clear all the agro other than root/ camp. SK's can always solo pull mobs that can be snared. No calm necessary, Just follow these easy seteps:
1) snare the single target you want & run it to the kill spot
2) hit feign,
3 ) hit hide (clears your agro from adds).
4 ) stand up and the solo mob can be taged alone with rest of agro cleared.

III)SK's can mitigate caster threat with bash / slam & fears (when appropriate).

IV) As far as DA goes, i am waiting for them to put Harm shield on this server for SK's, hopefully it will happen at some point. But there is always a shiny brass idol for raid pulling.

[Cecily]

SK spells are balanced for necromancers and just kinda bad.

[Valura]

Magician if soloing. SK or warrior if grouping