what 8 hours of wipes looks like

[georgie]

lol. not at the context but at how badly this game affects their rl and clearly how they are taking the boot. they've been kicked out of every guild twice or sevenfold. get laid seriously

[TheDuck]

Originally Posted by georgie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol. not at the context but at how badly this game affects their rl and clearly how they are taking the boot. they've been kicked out of every guild twice or sevenfold. get laid seriously

this is the 2nd time i have been kicked from tempest, and won't be the last i assure you.

[TheDuck]

and you don't, you drone on and on about elf honor tala, ELF HONOR. fucks sake.


lol. I used to be exactly like you, drinking that elf honor koolaid. and then i realized fuck elf honor, everyone is fucking everyone when u make it into the big leagues, be fucked or get fucked.

[Mune]

Oh no, Agatha's forum account down and coined. Pras gms, this guys really needs a break from eq to get his head straight

[georgie]

take agathas advice about honor, the guy that plays in a guild whilst giving the information to the opposing guild. yet sees nothing wrong with that.

[heartbrand]

The biggest difference between Empire and basically every iteration of the "other" guilds to me is the mass paranoia and bitterness and focus on peoples elf sim ethics. Yea people shit talked on Empire raids. Yes people ignored each other and Letsjoe drove some people to the edge of potential suicide. But at the end of the day people kept their bergers between themselves and never allowed them to impact the raids in any meaningful way. The officers simply laughed at people who got emotional and by downplaying the impact that peoples bergs had, it in turn led other people to take them less seriously as well, which made for a pretty relaxed and chill environment.

rant over

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The biggest difference between Empire and basically every iteration of the "other" guilds to me is the mass paranoia and bitterness and focus on peoples elf sim ethics. Yea people shit talked on Empire raids. Yes people ignored each other and Letsjoe drove some people to the edge of potential suicide. But at the end of the day people kept their bergers between themselves and never allowed them to impact the raids in any meaningful way. The officers simply laughed at people who got emotional and by downplaying the impact that peoples bergs had, it in turn led other people to take them less seriously as well, which made for a pretty relaxed and chill environment.

rant over

You were for DKP in another thread but I think a lot of Empires success was not allowing anyone that wasn't an officer to have any power. You don't have to worry about micro managing if you have a system set up to where you don't have to rely or trust people outside the inner core. Empire officers were actually more fair than they needed to be with loot distribution. The best and worst loot system for a guild is loot council.

DKP is best for people who don't trust their leaders and it also enables people to act like retards because performance or getting along doesn't matter. With this community I think DKP will always allow bergers to flare up. It is a Good Guys mentality where everyone comes together and splits loot evenly versus a well oiled machine where everyone follows a select group that knows how to get stuff done.

Loot council demands respect and loyalty with no effort. The only ones who can screw it up is the leadership. You only need a couple people to be cool headed and able to get along.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The biggest difference between Empire and basically every iteration of the "other" guilds to me is the mass paranoia and bitterness and focus on peoples elf sim ethics. Yea people shit talked on Empire raids. Yes people ignored each other and Letsjoe drove some people to the edge of potential suicide. But at the end of the day people kept their bergers between themselves and never allowed them to impact the raids in any meaningful way. The officers simply laughed at people who got emotional and by downplaying the impact that peoples bergs had, it in turn led other people to take them less seriously as well, which made for a pretty relaxed and chill environment.

rant over

exactly this

I flipped my burger and rolled

Stealing and training just ain't what you to do your brothers in arms

You gotta think to yourself, even if the leaders are/were scummy, what kind of rep do you want in this town when its time to move on to another guild

shaking my damn head Phil, you coulda been a true great

[Phaezed-Reality]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

exactly this

I flipped my burger and rolled

Stealing and training just ain't what you to do your brothers in arms

You gotta think to yourself, even if the leaders are/were scummy, what kind of rep do you want in this town when its time to move on to another guild

shaking my damn head Phil, you coulda been a true great

i didnt flip my bergers, they did, and then i did cause they kicked agatha.

[snufzaimoverlord]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The biggest difference between Empire and basically every iteration of the "other" guilds to me is the mass paranoia and bitterness and focus on peoples elf sim ethics. Yea people shit talked on Empire raids. Yes people ignored each other and Letsjoe drove some people to the edge of potential suicide. But at the end of the day people kept their bergers between themselves and never allowed them to impact the raids in any meaningful way. The officers simply laughed at people who got emotional and by downplaying the impact that peoples bergs had, it in turn led other people to take them less seriously as well, which made for a pretty relaxed and chill environment.

rant over

Good post, even when they buffed the fuck out of vymme (600k hp days) and we were wiping/horrible CRs, there wasn't anyone even crying about it in open channels. Raiding is boring as hell for most of us, but fucking around/attacking ppl, creating dwarf congo lines and not getting bitched at for it def helped. Couldn't imagine being in a guild where they boot their top DPS for a manna robe and... spying? lol.