Sacha Baron Cohen: it’s permissible to have relations with a woman who is your slave

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Muhammad had no slaves nor did he marry a child. I suggest you seek forgiveness from God and stop lying about and insulting one of His Prophets. But i'm innocent from what you do.

Yeah guys leave him alone. Just because he married her at 6 doesn't mean he was some pedo. He waited til she was 9 or 10 before consummating like a gentleman. There is some debate from scholars who think they exaggerated her youth to make her a more convincing virgin. Maybe she wasn't a convincing virgin? Shouldn't the prophet have known?

[Chaboo_Cleric]

WWJD

What would Jesus Drive?>

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Quran is full of prescriptive solutions for dealing with guilt and and shame and the mercifulness of Allah when failing any test of human decency. Typical sentence structure:

Do not do this thing for it is bad. This other thing is more good and is done by those who are most good. But he who does not do this thing that is good and instead does the thing that is bad, he cannot be blamed for it is not his fault. And he who does neither, but instead a more bad thing, he may be forgiven for Allah is merciful.

The bolded part is the reason for the liberal infatuation with Islam.

Sounds like Christianity where they think they can sin as much as they want because they believe a Prophet will be punished instead of them. Or Atheism where they reject the Day of Judgement entirely and adopt a meaningless life of unregulated hedonism.

The fact that God is the Most Merciful, and that He forgives our sins, doesn't mean that sinning is permissible because its not a guarantee. It just means that if we're struggling to avoid it then we shouldn't despair over the mercy of God but we can't just persist assume it will be forgiven. The Qur'an also teaches that good deeds make up for it, so we're simply taught to be as righteous as we can.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah guys leave him alone. Just because he married her at 6 doesn't mean he was some pedo. He waited til she was 9 or 10 before consummating like a gentleman. There is some debate from scholars who think they exaggerated her youth to make her a more convincing virgin. Maybe she wasn't a convincing virgin? Shouldn't the prophet have known?

That's a lie promoted by Sunni / Shia sectarians, corrupt man made hadiths, and rejecters. Nobody knows Aisha's real age and a Prophet of God wouldn't do that.

And you don't offend my by saying that because nobody is responsible for the mistakes of others. I'm simply clarifying and warning because you'll be questioned about that on the Day of Judgement.

[gcobb]

Also lol at all these idiots opening a pre-modern document and finding a handful of cultural assumptions that are--gasp!--pre-modern.

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by gcobb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also lol at all these idiots opening a pre-modern document and finding a handful of cultural assumptions that are--gasp!--pre-modern.

not as lol as ppl basing there entire life off said document

my good chum

[phacemeltar]

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WWJD

What would Jesus Drive?>

ive put alot of thought into this, and the answer is:

[phacemeltar]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a Prophet of God wouldn't do that.

you had me up until this. how could you possibly know? seems blasphemous for you to make such an assertion

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you had me up until this. how could you possibly know? seems blasphemous for you to make such an assertion

Because why would a Prophet of God commit such an obvious and significant sin?

[phacemeltar]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because why would a Prophet of God commit such an obvious and significant sin?

look im not trolling you broski, this is pretty serious. my question is how can any man know the true will of his lord? if the man is a prophet, then perhaps it should be taken into consideration that what you know to be true does not coincide with what he knows to be true. unless you are declaring yourself as a prophet with a direct line to the holiest, i wonder from where you are gathering your information.