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Old 02-03-2011, 10:22 AM
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:29 AM
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@ Messianic: For Ogre, I thought i should put 25 points in wis and 5 points in stam?

Maybe this doesn't matter all that much, but I thought this was the best course of action. Are you saying that due to getting a lot of wis (from items) at high levels, more stam is important in the end game?
Putting as many points as possible into WIS is the way to go. Casters get shitty HP return on STA. If you max out WIS with gear then you can look into HP gear; if you max it out faster, that means more HP gear.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:12 PM
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Putting as many points as possible into WIS is the way to go. Casters get shitty HP return on STA. If you max out WIS with gear then you can look into HP gear; if you max it out faster, that means more HP gear.
Terrible advice. Yes, 25 sta 5 wis.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:15 PM
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Come end game velious , your important stats will all be maxed no matter what race you are. =)
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:31 PM
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Terrible advice. Yes, 25 sta 5 wis.
You know what helps _no one_? Disagreeing with a point and providing absolutely nothing to back it up. Why would you even post it?
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:17 PM
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The more HP you have, the more you can cannibalize. That's basically what it comes down to.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:11 AM
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:30 AM
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You know what helps _no one_? Disagreeing with a point and providing absolutely nothing to back it up. Why would you even post it?
It's all been explained before. If you do a tiny bit of research you will find why most shamans prefer stamina as a starting stat over wisdom. Survivability is big for Shamans. We get hit a lot soloing and raiding. I can always make more mana, I can't always survive a flurry of attacks. Mana pools are for druids and clerics, not for Shamans.

I raid with 148 wisdom, and I never have a problem with too little mana. When i solo/farm I have about 135 wisdom and I never have a problem.

If you med a lot, you probably want a bigger mana pool... and you are playing your shaman incorrectly. You should be standing with chloro and rage on at all times and cannibalizing if you are not casting another spell.

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Edit: before some one comes in here and splits hairs about my not meditating comment I will add... some shamans try to med on the server tick, and it's an awesome little trick... but requires way too much attention to the server tick and not to what's going on around you. If you can do it, great. I don't.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:40 AM
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Thanks for the help and what I think is a warm welcome.

About the mana, from my memories being a non raiding barb shaman I actually had mana issues when i was grouping from lvl 35 to 50. Possibly due to the group and me not spending my mana the best way possible, anyhow I feel comfortable putting 25 points in wis.
Of course, if my experience changes this time around I will post it.

Back at work now and I have two more questions:

1. How much should I expect to pay for large banded mail pieces?
I do not want to pay too much, but at the same time I want to pay a decent amount to support the artisan.
I guess the best place to procure this would be EC tunnels on a Sunday.

2. How hard is it to level blacksmithing by yourself with the goal being to make a set of large banded mail?
The wiki says it is expensive, is it still feasible to level blacksmithing on a naked, first time character?
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Old 02-04-2011, 05:12 AM
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Yuda you can click on the east commonlands subforum section, and look on the server tradeskillers thread. Go on the latest post, and go back from there till yo find a troll or ogre smith. PM him for large banded orders, and he can make them first at his leisure, then you both meet in game and you can pay him 1pp per ac on the large banded.
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