Pulling

[Maner]

Originally Posted by GuyNumber1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really easy LOL. Doesn't that eye have like 2 hp?

Obviously you're one of those monks who found pulling is too hard now and quit

[Rygar]

Seriously sad to see people claim monk pulling should revolve around elder beads. Git gud already! Beads are a luxury and a crutch. I never once saw them on live, so sad to see monks think they need them just as bad as torpor.

They definitely help and speed up the pulling in some raid situations but Christ already, people act like you need them to exp.

[Danth]

Considering that they didn't fix repeated feigns memblurring things at a decent rate, you do what you gotta do. If it means using holgresh beads, so be it. As an SK with a finite mana bar it usually means a lot of cursing the screen if I have to actually drop aggro on something.

Danth

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously sad to see people claim monk pulling should revolve around elder beads. Git gud already! Beads are a luxury and a crutch. I never once saw them on live, so sad to see monks think they need them just as bad as torpor.

They definitely help and speed up the pulling in some raid situations but Christ already, people act like you need them to exp.

I agree, I don't remember seeing them used that often on live at all. Except in very unique situations. What I did see on live, all of the time, was javelins being expertly used by cutty teams of pullers. Don't get me wrong, my monk has beads and I love them. But there main benefit is being able to get agro on things and be out of sight to avoid casts. Or to agro mobs and train them away. Both can easily be done without beads. Take advantage of a javelins flight time at max range. And you can throw, strafe around the corner and be safe from casts all before the javelin hits. And for training things away, your a monk, hit it, run, flop.

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously sad to see people claim monk pulling should revolve around elder beads. Git gud already! Beads are a luxury and a crutch. I never once saw them on live, so sad to see monks think they need them just as bad as torpor.

They definitely help and speed up the pulling in some raid situations but Christ already, people act like you need them to exp.

This is sort of my issue with the sneak change. Many people saying sneak pulling was too "easy" but this change really only made pulling harder for those who can't afford beads and don't have uber gear that can help them withstand the extra damage from all the failed FD mem blurs. Don't beads trivialize pulling more than sneak did? At least with sneak you had to pull the mobs into position, get off a successful sneak and have some timing. Beads can be used from the relative safety of a FD position. Maybe that assessment is incorrect because I have never used them but I have seen them used. I'm also assuming bead prices are shooting up to 200k now after this change so they likely even more out of reach for many players (including myself).

All that being said I was able to split the spore king last night in Seb at level 55 using a combination of pathing and geometry to get him away from adds and a rogue to peel him off to group. It was my first time ever in that camp so I don't have an idea what it was like prior to the nerf but I can imagine it was a lot easier before considering how many adds there are (including lots of pathers). So monk splitting (without beads) is still viable but much trickier and more time consuming.

[GuyNumber1]

Flop and retain aggro forever.. forgot that part.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by GuyNumber1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flop and retain aggro forever.. forgot that part.

I must be special. When I flop, and let them path back, they reset and I can stand up without agro... The only times this doesn't work is when one has reset, but the other has not, and I stand when they are in assist range of each other. In those instances I get agro.

Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by "agro forever" but this is not the case for me.

Though I will attest to the fact that FD, currently, seems to have 0 chance at a memblur. It memblured a lot more often on live. Like every two flops and one of the mobs would memblur off is more what I recall. Since the patch changes I have had 2 mobs memblur on feign for me. Out of hundreds it seems.

[Swish]

So are rangers now the best outdoor zone pullers in EverQuest at this point in the timeline?....

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So are rangers now the best outdoor zone pullers in EverQuest at this point in the timeline?....

how could they not be?

[GuyNumber1]

They always have been bud