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Old 03-08-2017, 01:28 PM
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Are they planning on adding the Jaggedpine Forest? I tried searching, didn't get a concrete answer.
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Old 03-08-2017, 01:50 PM
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Luclin era zone so no definitive plans. Would lean towards no but who knows anymore.
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:59 PM
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Definitely in, I forgot about it and killed the Mighty Bear Paw and he had no loot lol. Displays the emote about being trivial etc. Does anyone know the threshold? Do you just have to be able to get exp off of the mob?
yes they need to be in xp range
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:17 PM
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I already tried to post this but it didnt seem to work. Sorry if this is a re-post

I have two questions.

Question 1) If you are higher level but you want to farm plat, can you farm low level camps? Like if I was level 40 could I camp sisters in lfay?

Question 2) If the first answer is no; then can I keep making a bunch of level 12's to camp sisters?
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Technically you could; but that would be a dick move if someone is trying to exp there. Especially since that camp is perfect for brand new players trying to earn a little plat and exp.
A much better place to do that is a mid level dungeon like sol A. Those gobos drop way better loot and there are plenty of them in the zone to support people plat farming and exping.
What class are you? Best option for casual plat farming is by far seafuries in OOT. Going to need to be around level 50 though depending on class.
I have see red con /anons farming orc belts in Crushbone.
If it's a cash camp or a trade skill spot; prepare to be ready for all sorts of D~baggery. If you meet a nice player; sometimes they'll give up the camp and even pay you for the trade drops you may find. If it's a pixel hoarder or greed merchant, then it's probably FCFS/FTE or even gtfooh.
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Old 03-08-2017, 05:13 PM
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I have see red con /anons farming orc belts in Crushbone.
If it's a cash camp or a trade skill spot; prepare to be ready for all sorts of D~baggery.
To be fair, just because someone wants to camp stuff for their alt it doesn't make them a douchebag pixel hoarder (and I say this having never camped CB belts or any similar low-level XP item for any of my alts). Either way those orcs are going to be killed, and their belts are going to be used by a single human being. Just because one human won't give up their camp to another human simply because the other human's character is lower level doesn't make the first human a douche, at least in my book.
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Old 03-08-2017, 05:34 PM
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Are the rules not followed as per the rules posted for p99? I mean I have seen several times lvl 55+ pulling entire zone and killing it resulting in my groups not getting any or much exp because they are camping mage focus items. Does this not follow under zone disruption? On live it was a single named mob could be camped by higher lvls but exp prevention wasn't allowed and multiple camping nameds wasn't allowed either unless no competition was there. IE they could camp frenzy but not kill the surrounding areas to keep from being bored. At least that's how I read zone disruption. I wasn't a GM but I was a guide for a bit upto Velious.
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Old 03-08-2017, 05:55 PM
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I have see red con /anons farming orc belts in Crushbone.
If it's a cash camp or a trade skill spot; prepare to be ready for all sorts of D~baggery. If you meet a nice player; sometimes they'll give up the camp and even pay you for the trade drops you may find. If it's a pixel hoarder or greed merchant, then it's probably FCFS/FTE or even gtfooh.
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To be fair, just because someone wants to camp stuff for their alt it doesn't make them a douchebag pixel hoarder (and I say this having never camped CB belts or any similar low-level XP item for any of my alts). Either way those orcs are going to be killed, and their belts are going to be used by a single human being. Just because one human won't give up their camp to another human simply because the other human's character is lower level doesn't make the first human a douche, at least in my book.
What I wrote was from personal experience, and what myself and my group witnessed. I'm not making anything up & it is also part what the OP asked. I alerted him that there's the potential of players doing douchey things, such as, a lv60 killing the monsters that you are killing within your level X range. Is it allowable? Yes, as already stated in another post. Is it a douchey thing to do? YES. I'm confused to your stance from this. C'mon man, you were nicer when I helped you with that epic =P
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:05 PM
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What I wrote was from personal experience, and what myself and my group witnessed. I'm not making anything up & it is also part what the OP asked. I alerted him that there's the potential of players doing douchey things, such as, a lv60 killing the monsters that you are killing within your level X range. Is it allowable? Yes, as already stated in another post. Is it a douchey thing to do? YES. I'm confused to your stance from this. C'mon man, you were nicer when I helped you with that epic =P
I agree if your a high lvl in a low lvl area farming and some low lvls come around looking for XP the high lvl should (im afraid to say only a dbag would refuse) leave and let the people within xp range have it - or move to an area where they wont interfere with the low lvls

I dont think anyone would argue against that right?
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:36 PM
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the high lvl should (im afraid to say only a dbag would refuse) leave and let the people within xp range have it - or move to an area where they wont interfere with the low lvls

I dont think anyone would argue against that right?
I will! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] My argument is that when it comes to what's douchebaggy, the thoughts/actions of the real life humans involved matter a lot more than which toon they are pretending to be in an elf sim.

Look, obviously if person A can get XP from a camp, and person B can't, then it would certainly be nice for person B to let person A take the camp. Ideally they would buy whatever item (eg. CB belt) is involved from A, and everyone wins: A gets XP and some extra cash, and B gets their items. That's being a nice considerate person, and we need more nice considerate people in the server. Again, I've never farmed these items, but I'd like to think that's what I would do in this situation.

But there's a whole spectrum in between "nice considerate person" and douchebag. To me being a douchebag is when you try to steal someone else's mob or take someone else's camp. In other words, to me being a douchebag is when you try to take something that isn't your's . I don't see wanting to keep the camp you spent your time to get as that.

We're playing a 15+ year old elf simulator that revolves around virtual treasures that are "earned" through time and effort. At the end of the day who cares if you're simulating a level 60 elf or a level 1 ogre: you're still a person playing a game. If you ignore the toons, there's no escaping that you're talking about one person being shamed for not letting another person take something that they had first.

Now I'm not talking about a level 60 monopolizing all of Crushbone: that would be zone disruption. But if you, the human, want to kill in the throne room, I think you should have to "earn" it (wait for it) the same as any other human: you shouldn't just get to take it because you spent less time playing the game and showed up late.

Because you're lower level it would be nice if that person let you have it anyway. But just as I wouldn't fault someone for not donating money they earned to charity, I wouldn't fault anyone for not giving up the camp they "earned". I fault them when they try to take money they didn't earn from the donation jar, or try to take a camp they didn't earn from someone who did earn it .

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Is it a douchey thing to do? YES. I'm confused to your stance from this. C'mon man, you were nicer when I helped you with that epic =P
I'd like to think I'm still nice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And thanks again for the epic help.

But look, just because when I think about what's fair and what's douchebaggy I come to a different conclusion than you, it just means that we disagree, it doesn't mean either of us are a douchebag or "not nice". Reasonable people with good moral fiber can still disagree about what's "good".
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:53 PM
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Are the rules not followed as per the rules posted for p99? I mean I have seen several times lvl 55+ pulling entire zone and killing it resulting in my groups not getting any or much exp because they are camping mage focus items. Does this not follow under zone disruption? On live it was a single named mob could be camped by higher lvls but exp prevention wasn't allowed and multiple camping nameds wasn't allowed either unless no competition was there. IE they could camp frenzy but not kill the surrounding areas to keep from being bored. At least that's how I read zone disruption. I wasn't a GM but I was a guide for a bit upto Velious.
It's not zone disruption to be using a zone...
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