jboots MQ = a waste of money?

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

jboots are an instaclick buff. damn near every boss dispells. tons of actual mobs dispell. they only work in outdoor zones but Hate, Fear, and all kunark dragons + most epic fights except trak are outdoors.

When was the last time you were on a raid with zero druids, shaman, rangers, bards? When was the last time you needed a run speed buff AFTER being dispelled by these mobs? These targets, once engaged drop really fast

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you don't have to grab a new set of jboots out of your bag to click it every time your jboots run out.

Very true, but does not make them a must, just convenient. There is a difference.

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't imagine how many potions i'd go through in a 10-12 hour sky raid between timers wearing off and deaths.

Again, when was the last time you were on a raid with zero druids or rangers? I'm pretty sure the druids and rangers have plenty of time and mana to sow you on a raid. That being said my guess is you would use your potion zero times.

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i would hate myself in the face thinking about spending cash every single time i had to click my jboots, luckily i don't.

The OP already did the math. Most of your examples of clicking j-boots are times when you actually had sow available which is superior run speed by 20%

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

jboots are an absolutely essential piece of equipment 45+, especially if you're raiding. sorry.

Completely disagree 100%. If you were going to say anything at all about being solo then you might have a leg to stand on but your examples actually do more to prove that j-boots are not essential on raids.

I never had j-boots on live or on this server and I have never died on a raid due to not having them.

[Shiftin]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When was the last time you were on a raid with zero druids, shaman, rangers, bards? When was the last time you needed a run speed buff AFTER being dispelled by these mobs? These targets, once engaged drop really fast

The first part is completely irrelevant, but probably half our raids have no rangers and most have at tops 2 druids, who are usually blasted on mana doing spot heals / SLN etc. Shaman have 5+ other buffs they're constantly casting + debuffing. I still get SoW when i'm dragging bodies because it's actually a material difference in speed then.

As to how often i get dispelled and reclick jboots it's probably 5x during an inny kill dealing with the Gflux/dispell. If i don't, i lose another buff and if that buff is my lev cloak that gets dispelled next, i'm kinda SOL.

Very true, but does not make them a must, just convenient. There is a difference.

I'm pretty sure a huge chunk of the economy is based on convenience to some degree.

Again, when was the last time you were on a raid with zero druids or rangers? I'm pretty sure the druids and rangers have plenty of time and mana to sow you on a raid. That being said my guess is you would use your potion zero times.

I feel like i covered this above, but one less buff that has to be cast on 40 people in sky after every encounter / wear off / succor is time well saved. There are still times sow is important and i'm not discounting the utility of potions completely, but you're acting like jboots server no purpose.

The OP already did the math. Most of your examples of clicking j-boots are times when you actually had sow available which is superior run speed by 20%

Completely disagree 100%. If you were going to say anything at all about being solo then you might have a leg to stand on but your examples actually do more to prove that j-boots are not essential on raids.

I never had j-boots on live or on this server and I have never died on a raid due to not having them.

Probably 80%+ of the time i'm logged in on shiftin i'm raiding. In the last few months i think i could count of how many mobs have been won or lost between DA and IB by literally mere seconds. There is a reason the successful raiding guilds require them and to argue that casted sow or potions are just as effective while admitting they are not quite as efficient or convenient in every circumstance is a massive contradition. If you want to win, you need to have them. That's my definition of essential.

For me, and people like me, jboots are essential. For lots of other people, they are an awesome convenience which can be supplemented by casted or potion sow.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

I will now step aside for the inevitable "look how much plat i have and im not 45" posts forthcoming.

[Ihealyou]

I had about 1k in the bank until around level 48. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Darkforge]

Jboot = instant. Having an instant click sow is always nice. It is only 8% or around there slower than sow so you will not really notice. Also another advantage of haveing them is put your jboots buff up last so if you fight a mob / person that diapells they get your instant cast jboots buff that u can put back up and not your cleric buff or clerity lol. Just my two cents. Do what u want thougth. I think they are worth it. Now don't get me wrong even with jboots I always like to get my sow lol.

[redghosthunter]

We still love ya Dantes... But ya. Boots. Pots are a nice novelty item. Gate pots really should be your push.

[guineapig]

Sow potions are most definitely a legitimate alternative. You will only ever use them if you are outdoors and traveling alone. When you are in a group (as melee usually are) chances are you have access to sow in your group.

Of course anyone who has spent 8+ hours camping AC or their entire savings on a pair of J-boots is going to poo-poo on your logic but your logic is sound.

I don't recall the last time a melee was expected to junk buff themselves on a raid, and against Naggy and Vox you can't use j-boots anyway. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Sow potions taste like wolf piss.

[Droodler]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sow potions taste like wolf piss.

I think this should be your new motto.

Buy JBoots MQ. Because SoW potions taste like wolf piss (TM)

[Dantes]

Bullshit. I had jboots on live and they never did anything except for grant me MEDIOCRE run speed that barely outran anything. After Kunark release, it was even worse. The fucking things were practically useless.

*downs a sow potion*

IT GIVES YOU WINGS!

Now if only they made Deadman Floating Potions, I'd be all over that.