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Old 05-15-2017, 07:10 AM
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Charm duration itself has a few factors such as your charisma,the mob's MR and your level vs the mobs level.

A broken tash shouldn't readjust the original charm timer, the check should only apply at the point where it lands. But do reapply tash again when charm breaks, obviously [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Go back to promoting red server in every post, you're better at that than enchanter advice. Charm most definitely checks every tick to try and break or hold. Tash falling off most definitely does increase the chance of it breaking early. There's nothing you can do about it besides wait for it to break and retash or break it yourself when it's safe to do so and retash it then.
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:20 AM
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Go back to promoting red server in every post, you're better at that than enchanter advice. Charm most definitely checks every tick to try and break or hold. Tash falling off most definitely does increase the chance of it breaking early. There's nothing you can do about it besides wait for it to break and retash or break it yourself when it's safe to do so and retash it then.
Dang. Swish got pwned!
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:28 AM
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Thanks everyone for clearing that up!
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:30 AM
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Go back to promoting red server in every post, you're better at that than enchanter advice. Charm most definitely checks every tick to try and break or hold. Tash falling off most definitely does increase the chance of it breaking early. There's nothing you can do about it besides wait for it to break and retash or break it yourself when it's safe to do so and retash it then.
I've leveled 3 enchanters (one sold when selling for plat was legal) and I can remember plenty of instances when tash fades and the charm continues for plenty of time. Maybe that's a coincidence but show me some solid evidence - not from live in 1999 or on the TLPs right now, from P99.

You done a test?

Me and an old pal Propo test a theory on once you break 200 charisma, charm length becomes much more stable (so is there a need to go to 255?). I'll see if I can dig that out, it was done in City of Mist pre-Velious. That was actual testing and not getting emotional at someone else's words on a forum because you disagree with them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:04 AM
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Dexterity helps with missed notes, not charisma.
They both do based on my p99 research. There's arguably a lot of bad information out there - but that's the word on the street based on multiple sources.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:49 PM
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based on multiple sources.
Care you post them? I'm curious
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Old 05-15-2017, 06:30 PM
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Your CHA + Targets MR + Your Lvl vs Targets lvl are all known to factor into enchanter pet breaks.
It's not a duration or a timer. It's a check every server tick. You can literally have your pet break back to back, over and over if you have bad luck, and then some dickwad in your group will ask you what your CHA is at, guaranteed.
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Old 05-16-2017, 05:05 PM
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You done a test?

Me and an old pal Propo test a theory on once you break 200 charisma, charm length becomes much more stable (so is there a need to go to 255?). I'll see if I can dig that out, it was done in City of Mist pre-Velious. That was actual testing and not getting emotional at someone else's words on a forum because you disagree with them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Would be interested to see some of this data as well. Currently leveling a enchanter and still trying to decide which side I believe. Perhaps once I have enough gear I'll conduct some tests or my own. (I have no emotional attachment to either side [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:09 AM
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Something I've never found a straight answer on. Does charisma matter for Necro undead charming (and lulls)?
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:48 PM
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Something I've never found a straight answer on. Does charisma matter for Necro undead charming (and lulls)?
No, and it doesn't for druids either.
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