RIP Chester Bennington

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a selfish piece of shit. Sure he had a real tough life [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not his fault for what he is or was. people dont kill they self if they feel they needed. he probably thought that with his success his wife and children would be well taken care of and everyone around him would be better off if he did not exist. people don't just kill theyself for no reason.

"selfish" people generally don't kill theyself because they live they life for theyself. that a stupid word though because all rational behavior is selfish. it just happen that some people have they satisfaction more tightly correlated with others.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not his fault for what he is or was. people dont kill they self if they feel they needed. he probably thought that with his success his wife and children would be well taken care of and everyone around him would be better off if he did not exist. people don't just kill theyself for no reason.

"selfish" people generally don't kill theyself because they live they life for theyself. that a stupid word though because all rational behavior is selfish. it just happen that some people have they satisfaction more tightly correlated with others.

People do not commit suicide because they want to die, they do it because they want to no longer feel pain. I read this once, and I think this is exactly true.

It's easy to say things like "he was selfish for committing suicide," but I think this is wrong. It's just a lot more complicated than that.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People do not commit suicide because they want to die, they do it because they want to no longer feel pain. I read this once, and I think this is exactly true.

It's easy to say things like "he was selfish for committing suicide," but I think this is wrong. It's just a lot more complicated than that.

I cannot agree. He had six kids, all with no father now. Although I don't know the whole story, he was financially capable of receiving any help he needed.

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cannot agree. He had six kids, all with no father now. Although I don't know the whole story, he was financially capable of receiving any help he needed.

that why it obvious he thought things would be better off without him. it possible he not thought about anyone else, but if that the case, why he upset in the first place? if he only concerned with himself, he coulda done whatever he wanted to get happy. it very likely he felt it not matter if he were gone. unless you killing youself to spite others, you hafta believe that you death not matter, or that it be a good thing.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not his fault for what he is or was. people dont kill they self if they feel they needed. he probably thought that with his success his wife and children would be well taken care of and everyone around him would be better off if he did not exist. people don't just kill theyself for no reason.

This is a direct quote from him from earlier this year when asked why he quit a tour

"It was just too hard on my family, so I basically was like, you know what, I’ve got to stop being selfish here. When I’m not doing Linkin Park, I’ve got to be home with my babies."

Obviously knew he meant a lot to his kids, two of which are like 6 years old, still decided to kill him self. I cant pretend that doesnt make him a piece of shit.

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a direct quote from him from earlier this year when asked why he quit a tour

"It was just too hard on my family, so I basically was like, you know what, I’ve got to stop being selfish here. When I’m not doing Linkin Park, I’ve got to be home with my babies."

Obviously knew he meant a lot to his kids, two of which are like 6 years old, still decided to kill him self. I cant pretend that doesnt make him a piece of shit.

how do you rationalize killing youself if you don't care about anyone else? what sorta non-physical pain would make a person who only care about theyself decide to kill theyself? emotional pain never just associated with youself unless you simply lamenting the meaninglessness of you own existence. if you purely self-serving you just gonna do whatever you need to be happy. if he only care about himself, why he not just leave his family and pursue happiness elsewhere?

of course his family not better off without him, but he figure it was, or that at least it did t matter, unless he wanted to spite them, which seems unlikely based on you quote.

so yes, you right, if he kill himself while believing that his family need him, he is selfish, but then it make no sense unless he actively hate them. you think he had contempt for his family?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how do you rationalize killing youself if you don't care about anyone else? what sorta non-physical pain would make a person who only care about theyself decide to kill theyself? emotional pain never just associated with youself unless you simply lamenting the meaninglessness of you own existence. if you purely self-serving you just gonna do whatever you need to be happy. if he only care about himself, why he not just leave his family and pursue happiness elsewhere?

of course his family not better off without him, but he figure it was, or that at least it did t matter, unless he wanted to spite them, which seems unlikely based on you quote.

so yes, you right, if he kill himself while believing that his family need him, he is selfish, but then it make no sense unless he actively hate them. you think he had contempt for his family?

People just trolling for giggles now or writing with no sense of logic to their arguments.

I think it's just easier for people to say when someone commits suicide they are being selfish than it is to actually put some thought into the entirety of the situation.

How about the little 14 year old girl who committed suicide after being abused for years by a family member, was she being selfish too?

No logic at all with this argument that suicide is selfish. It has nothing to do with a person being selfish.

[Baler]

I think the craziest part of this is how many people loved Chester.
linkin park touched so, so many people back in the day.

[Baler]

Deals with the devil weigh hard on the heart.

[Cecily]

My heart goes out to all the bad music fans mourning his loss.