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Old 10-07-2017, 11:59 AM
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... though I have started to look at guilds too.

I don't want to just join in a selfish manner though; I like the social aspect of Classic-Velious with regards to helping people with little things like quests and such.
So first off, everyone who joins a raiding guild does so selfishly: we all want "pixels" (ie. gear for our characters) and we all join a guild for the express purpose of getting them. This is why systems like DKP exist: to focus that selfish desire of every member in a way that benefits everyone.

For instance, as a shaman the Plane of Air has almost nothing to offer (modulo a 2-charge FD item). But if you help your guild on a raid there, selflessly enabling other classes to get gear and epic pieces they need, you also selfishly help yourself by racking up DKP you can later spend to get a tear.

But at the same time, guilds are also the perfect place to embrace the truly social/un-selfish aspect of the game. One day you'll have plans to go farm giants in Kael, but then suddenly your guildmate is asking for help with a minor epic mob fight in LOIO, so (although you don't have to go, and you won't get any DKP for doing so) you drop everything and start looking for a port so you can go help them.

TLDR: Whether or not you join for selfish reasons, a (well-run) raiding guild will give you a way to pursue your selfish goals while helping your fellow players pursue their goals, and most of the time you get to do the two simultaneously.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:39 PM
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I figure, why not settup a raid this following week, though will need a tracker to track if fear stuff up? I've forgotten alot how fear works though too. If its a 24/48 hour reset for spawns ect.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:04 PM
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The item he needs drops after golems, which themselves drop $$$$ loot. They spawn alongside CT or every 3 days after
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:25 AM
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Bottom line is he won't get a pick up raid to wait the 16 hour variance window for golems or ct. Not unless he had a steady stream of people coming in as people were leaving.
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Old 10-08-2017, 01:19 PM
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Bottom line is he won't get a pick up raid to wait the 16 hour variance window for golems or ct. Not unless he had a steady stream of people coming in as people were leaving.
And there are a lot of shamans in guilds that still need there epics. I imagine his pug raid would be massively contested.
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Old 10-08-2017, 01:43 PM
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2018 campaign for open golem raid
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Old 10-08-2017, 03:36 PM
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Yeah the golem's have a chance to drop Amulet of Necropotence a ~350k item, and Puppet Strings, a ~200k item and one of the most OP items in the game, so they will always be contested.

People sell the tear + fight for 100k now. It used to be cheaper, but it went up. If you could get a tear, and asked on the forums I'm sure people with level 60's would be willing to help with the fight for free. I would help.

By far your best chance is joining a guild that does golem's frequently though. Like Loramin said, literally everyone that joins a guild does it for a selfish reason so don't worry about that.

If you just don't want to join a guild, you could farm shit worth like 3k to eventually get the 70k at 54. It would be brutally boring and time consuming but it's doable.
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