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Old 12-20-2017, 03:17 PM
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Are raid guilds allowed to use bad pathing to keep trash mobs (non raid targets) busy during a raid?
Yes it's allowed.

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Old 12-20-2017, 04:09 PM
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If you're gonna do shady stuff then you need to lawyer up.

If you need a recommendation then hit me up i know the best of the best. Youre gonna want a criminal lawyer. Has over 10 years experience practicing eq law.
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:42 PM
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Daldaen you are being trolled.

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Old 12-20-2017, 06:21 PM
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I'm sorry but I still can't help but feel like people are taking advantage of emulator bugs to win. Even when i'm not apart of that scene it's sketchy as hell.

from my experience from UO and EQ EMU servers,. any time a player can bug out mobs to not do damage to them and they're in control it's a server bug.

IDC how much people want to fight me and tell me I'm wrong,. Maybe what you know is wrong!!

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Old 12-20-2017, 09:16 PM
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I'm sorry but I still can't help but feel like people are taking advantage of emulator bugs to win.
Feelings mean nothing. Only facts do. Fact is, these mechanics are allowed.

Like Spyder explained in great detail tons of these "bugs" are used in strategies to defeat mobs on p99. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:38 PM
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Since the OP asked the question publicly, I assume he can take opinion answers in discussion (without trolling or trying to troll, etc.).

My opinion is that what the OP described, in and of itself, is not against the rules unless a GM specifically makes a ruling (like doing X in place Y while fighting boss Z is specifically stated).

What Daldaen is saying makes sense. Is it exploiting to CC mobs by kiting them around while a raid force fights a boss? It would seem like the answer is no to me. The strat is functionally, in and of itself, identical to using pathing nodes to kite the mob (i.e. run it around without it hitting you).

If there is a game breaking way that this strat is giving an unfair advantage then GMs should specifically forbid it and devs should fix it.

Pathing in EQ on live was buggy. Pathing on p99 is buggy. Ideally, players should be reporting significant problems for devs to fix.
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Old 12-20-2017, 09:59 PM
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A long time ago(years, 3 or 4) I was leveling in CB one day and a mage was using a patching hiccup like you described in the slaver area. GM showed up within like 30 min and nuked the guy and I never saw him again. Its just an anecdote so take it as you will, but after that if I found a similar patching node I simply avoided it.
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:08 PM
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i would solo RCY in KC on my necro by standing on top of the overhang and strafing so mobs couldnt get to me. GM came and told me to stop or get banned...the description in your question sounds like the same thing to me so i would assume its illegal. but maybe it depends on your end goal, be it to gain exp, stall mobs, or just not die.
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:25 PM
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i would solo RCY in KC on my necro by standing on top of the overhang and strafing so mobs couldnt get to me. GM came and told me to stop or get banned...the description in your question sounds like the same thing to me so i would assume its illegal. but maybe it depends on your end goal, be it to gain exp, stall mobs, or just not die.
They aren't killing the mobs, they are functionally CC'ing them. Its more analogous to you just running the mobs around for 15 minutes and then FDing.

To my original point though, if a GM rules that "doing X at Y while fighting Z" is against the rules then it is. A GM showed up and told you just that. If you went back the week after and did the same thing you should be suspended. GMs watch raid guilds pretty closely here, they could (and maybe do) make comments regarding this.
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:23 PM
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TL;DR most of the thread... happy spots have been considered exploits in the past.
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