SK epic vs other weapons, worth?

[Xaeophi]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I parse most groups I’m in and have for a long time now. At the higher end of content, ranging from 57-60 and including very nice samplings across the board (high end tradables, epics, low raid and NToV/BiS ... I can say one thing:

Many high end players playing high dps classes overrate their own damage output. Average high end rogues may burst or disc/luck out some insane numbers but in general I expect a ballpark of 80-120 dps sustained depending on gear with standard group buffs. Monks? 70-90? Rangers? Less. Warriors? Not that far behind. People with raid BiS or lazy and crappliy geared blokes can always break this molds but it’s what I’ve come to expect.

Where I’m going with is I’ve also parsed well geared SKs and Pals and they, though measurably lower, aren’t as god awful as people think they are. A paladin with the 27/29 hate 1hs can put out a consistent 50-60dps. It’s less than warriors but not by as much as you might think under realistic fighting conditions. NToV weapons yield better results.

People like to strut raid burn parses fully buffed to the gills and burning discs, but 99% of new play doesn’t have avatar, CotP, trueshot, precision, etc_and_so_on in the equation.

Knight dps is anything but non-contributory unless your gear, buffs and weapons suck. Ratio does matter and dps is dps. Well geared knights can put out respectable numbers for an archetype that is expected to suck.

Very few monks can out dps my ranger actually.. Cute assumption though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Xaeophi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very few monks can out dps my ranger actually.. Cute assumption though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very few comparably geared rangers will beat comparably geared monks (BFG trueshot raid burns notwithstanding).

Sorry if I sprained your e-peen. Injuries of the gentleman’s sausage are super cereal and not a joking matter. My humblest of apologies.

Sincerely,

Troxx Tomte, Esquire
Chief Ninja
Lord and Master of the Universe

[Octopath]

I was curious, how is sk epic vs greenmist?

[Sonderbeast]

Originally Posted by Octopath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was curious, how is sk epic vs greenmist?

Gonna be awesome for Iksar SK's.

When you compare it to Innoruuks curse you can't just look at them side by side. You have to realize you're gonna have a big ass plank in your secondary giving great stats and resists.

Turns out with Atramentous shield it will be basically the same as epic except have better snap aggro and better MR while still giving a good siphon effect. The extra 35 mr from that combo is great for resisting dragon AE while tanking and various magic based robots while pulling.

And good dps 😋

[Octopath]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gonna be awesome for Iksar SK's.

When you compare it to Innoruuks curse you can't just look at them side by side. You have to realize you're gonna have a big ass plank in your secondary giving great stats and resists.

Turns out with Atramentous shield it will be basically the same as epic except have better snap aggro and better MR while still giving a good siphon effect. The extra 35 mr from that combo is great for resisting dragon AE while tanking and various magic based robots while pulling.

And good dps 😋

So is it worth it to make a iksar sk only because of greenmist? I really have no desire to make a iksar besides that (regent is bonus points)

[elwing]

Originally Posted by Octopath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So is it worth it to make a iksar sk only because of greenmist? I really have no desire to make a iksar besides that (regent is bonus points)

Human sk there, selling a full lord of pain MQ for 50k...just saying, lol

[24kanthony]

If I'm not using my eipc, it's the nev claw and SoM or the great spear of dawn when the spell Haste and buffs are there. Otherwise, it's pretty much always the epic.

[evilkorn]

It depends on what you want to do. Want to run through the quest for fun/lore/travel fine go for it. If you are going to duo or solo, you still want to have better dps which you said there are better ratio 2 handers and while the proc is neat it probably wont make up for the worse ratio and a fungi is a more consistent heal. I don't use my SK that often but content with Lance and eye/sev shield when I do use him. He's iksar so i'll probably get the greenmist just because even though it's worse than the 25/25 tov 1hander.

[Sonderbeast]

You guys are really trying to defend SK dps? Lol


Next we'll be seeing wizards with Willsappers tanking Vindi.

Back to reality here - like I was saying don't worry about your dps because it's not important to your class. Sk epic is good for everything you need to do including hur durr dps.

[24kanthony]

Well, with my claw I'm doing about 45dps, with epic its 60 to 80 dps, and with the spear it can parse anywhere from 65 to 120 dps so it's worth paying some attention to.