Early Kunark items that get removed

[Mardur]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The pre-nerf staff is castable from inventory so any class can use it. The post-nerf has to be equipped and is thus only usable by DRU SHM and CLR (I believe those are the only 3 classes that can wield it).

The robe eventually has regrowth (worn) removed, and since it's not replaced with a different item I would guess that it's a retroactive nerf.

OP:
Runed Fighters Staff (or is it battle?) 19/20 Mnk only 2hb eventually gets removed and replaced with a 38/40 (same ratio, but a weaker staff DPS wise because the dmg bonus gets applied less often).

Runed Fighters Staff was actually originally Monk/Warrior but I think the ones dropping on P99 are the nerfed Monk only version [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[randal.flagg]

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Runed Fighters Staff was actually originally Monk/Warrior but I think the ones dropping on P99 are the nerfed Monk only version [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe this was retro-actively nerfed fairly quickly anyhow.

[Weekapaug]

Circlet of Shadow drop gets replaced by the Circle of Shadows (same item, but the invis isn't instant, making it not the sk tool it once was) eventually but it should be quite a while. And existing circles remain unchanged. That change went in to accomodate a combat mechanics change for Sullon Zek, which finished beta and went live around the first of July the summer after Velious came out, so it should be quite a while.

If you ever plan to play a SK on this server, I would definitely put this item at the top of the list. Personally, I found this item to be a gamechanger as an SK at the time, and I don't think anything replaces it until well into AA, which this server will never have. It was such a massive nerf to the class that in the years that followed the SK community forums had to ban any discussion of the circlet and its use because it constantly caused problems between the haves and have-nots.

Just started back live to check out the new features, merc etc. I made a baby sk to play with my gfs toon....I'm already using the circlet constantly, even now.

If you play or plan to play a sk here, you want one of these.

[Weekapaug]

iin my post above "circle" = "circlet." handheld autocomplete FTW

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Circlet of Shadow drop gets replaced by the Circle of Shadows (same item, but the invis isn't instant, making it not the sk tool it once was) eventually but it should be quite a while. And existing circles remain unchanged. That change went in to accomodate a combat mechanics change for Sullon Zek, which finished beta and went live around the first of July the summer after Velious came out, so it should be quite a while.

If you ever plan to play a SK on this server, I would definitely put this item at the top of the list. Personally, I found this item to be a gamechanger as an SK at the time, and I don't think anything replaces it until well into AA, which this server will never have. It was such a massive nerf to the class that in the years that followed the SK community forums had to ban any discussion of the circlet and its use because it constantly caused problems between the haves and have-nots.

Just started back live to check out the new features, merc etc. I made a baby sk to play with my gfs toon....I'm already using the circlet constantly, even now.

If you play or plan to play a sk here, you want one of these.

lol ok TMO

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol ok TMO

How did you get anything about TMO out of Week's post? Other guilds have been farming them for their SKs and Necros for about a week now. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The circlet is an amazing item for pulling, travel, and general utility as evidenced by the large sums of money people were willing to pay post-nerf to acquire a pre-nerf circlet on the live servers. The difference this go-around is everyone knows the nerf is coming, so they will make sure to get the supply they want over the course of the next year.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by sero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the info. Do you, or anyone else, have any info on when the RotLF nerf occurred? Some person in-game said it wasn't until near Velious, while the comments on Allakazam say it was very shortly after Kunark launch.

It occurred very quickly.

http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~jhsu/everquest/

Absolutely occurred before June 19, 2000.

[pheerie]

Wasn't there a pre-nerf Blade of the Black Dragon with a better poison proc or somethIng?

[Mardur]

Blade of the Black Dragon Eye gets replaced with Blade of the Green Dragon Eye, which has 1 less damage and no proc at all.

Edit: Had a brain fart and posted wrong information.

[nilbog]

blade of the black dragon eye - reets
blade of the green dragon eye - reets