Is this legal?

[Stryker85]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's saying one might use the smokescreen of 'GINA issues' to excuse selling 25kpp for $70.

A fair point I suppose, but this is an issue that only needs to be solved one time for the entire p99 community.
As soon as someone is able to get it working, we can post it in the thread for the p99 MAC installation guide here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...hlight=install

Or in this thread about all the downloads and addons that go with p99: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=130053

Or in this thread specifically asking for the exact same thing: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...highlight=gina

Or even just a new official GINA installation guide thread.

[Chapelle]

Not a p99 lawyer, but from looking at the server policy:

7. Real Money Trades (RMT) are not allowed on Project 1999.

The involvement of any currency, items, or services external to any Project 1999 Server (Including but not limited to: real money (USD, Euro, Etc), regulated or otherwise (Bitcoins), Food/Delivery, Virtual currency of any other game (Platinum on Live or other EQEmulator Servers, Beta Keys for the latest new game, etc)) for any of that Project 1999 server's virtual items or service (Including by not limited to: Items, Platinum, Powerlevelling, Accounts/Characters) is strictly forbidden.

You're trading an external service for platinum. Roll the dice if you want, but it seems pretty cut and dry.

[Stryker85]

Originally Posted by Chapelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a p99 lawyer, but from looking at the server policy:

7. Real Money Trades (RMT) are not allowed on Project 1999.

The involvement of any currency, items, or services external to any Project 1999 Server (Including but not limited to: real money (USD, Euro, Etc), regulated or otherwise (Bitcoins), Food/Delivery, Virtual currency of any other game (Platinum on Live or other EQEmulator Servers, Beta Keys for the latest new game, etc)) for any of that Project 1999 server's virtual items or service (Including by not limited to: Items, Platinum, Powerlevelling, Accounts/Characters) is strictly forbidden.

You're trading an external service for platinum. Roll the dice if you want, but it seems pretty cut and dry.

Well then the only question would be if we could get a GM ruling to deem this as a service internal (as opposed to a service external) to Project 1999 Server, since it would be in an effort only to benefit the community by incentivizing someone with advanced computer knowledge that can figure out how to get GINA or GTT working for MAC users with wineskin (like its already been done for the Mac install of EQ itself).

[jolanar]

Definitely not legal. Good way to get your account banned and also the person who you gave the plat to banned for RMT.

[Stryker85]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Definitely not legal. Good way to get your account banned and also the person who you gave the plat to banned for RMT.

I wouldn't do anything without getting consent from a GM that deemed it as a service internal to the p99 community with the results posted as a guide for all current and future Mac users, so no one's getting banned for anything.

[loramin]

I will say that I've "gotten away with RMT" a couple times now when I've offered plat to people for wiki work. But, when I do those, there's two key factors that I think prevent it from being RMT:

1) communal (P99) good: it benefits the wiki/everyone (this case might qualify for this part)
2) I give out small amounts of plat 1-2k, to help lowbies get started (I don't think 25k qualifies for this)

Why not just offer money? If you care this much, maybe you can spare $25 instead, and that might be enough to entice someone. Or alternatively, as my esteemed guild mate suggested:

Originally Posted by CodyF86 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Save that plat and teach yourself a language like Python and you can write one yourself.

(... except I'd use Javascript personally [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].)

Or in fact, if you just learn how to use command line scripts, you can even make a "ghetto gina" super easily for some things by using the "grep" command. Don't want to watch your EC tunnel character to see when some item you want is offered? Just "grep" your tunnel mule's log file for the item and it will show up whenever someone auctions it. If you "pipe" that command in to a beep command, you can even get an audio alert.

[loramin]

P.S. I've actually played around a little with making a Linux version (which would work on Mac also) of Gina using Node/Javascript. I found the libraries I'd need and it's definitely possible ... but I'm swamped at work right now teaching other people how to program and don't have the bandwidth for a new project right now.

[Legidias]

Only scrubs need to rely on third party UI's and triggers anyways

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only scrubs need to rely on third party UI's and triggers anyways

still easier to play with them...only scrubs need them, but only an idiot would intentionally make their life harder for no reason.

[Sunderfury]

The answer is you can't pay plat for that.