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Old 09-07-2019, 05:52 PM
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Back in the day dps classes would maintain their own aggro. Not just go ham out of the gate.
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Old 09-07-2019, 06:17 PM
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How are monks more OP than chanters/shamans?
During 05/03 a monk soloed Vox/Naggy. I know this is an expansion or two away from Velious but it answers your question.

https://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-502.html

Don't think a shaman or any other class was able to do this.

Here's how he did it:

He posted the logs, used ds potions, healing potions, was buffed with lvl 60+ buffs, and is better twinked then alot of lvl 65 main monks. He used his epic to deal with the debuff, since they only debuff one slot, it is very doable. It appears to be real. Course I have always been of the opinion, solo ment, no buffs on you, that you can't cast yourself. Still is an impresive feat.
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Old 09-07-2019, 06:29 PM
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Monks defensive disc only lasts 12 seconds. A warriors lasts much much longer. Plus like they said holding aggro is everything in a raid. Can’t dps a mob down if the mob turns around and mows down your dps. That’s the quickest way to wipe. Monks tank decently in a group setting vs group mobs
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:14 PM
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How are monks more OP than chanters/shamans?
Because there's no other class in the game that rivals them in raid/solo/group effectiveness. They're basically warriors who can FD, heal themselves, and dps like rogues(especially when triple attack comes out). A ToV geared monk can solo 95% of what an enchanter/shaman can. And both those classes just really get boring in raid setting where you're essentially just a buff/torpor bot.

Don’t get me wrong I’ve played every class they are all great in their own way but it eventually becomes obvious they are the clear winner which is why they got nerfed after velious.
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:28 PM
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How are monks more OP than chanters/shamans?
I never saw the videos of shamans or enchanters soloing fungus king (on p99).

Not that I'm saying it hasn't or can't be done. But a monk has famously evidenced it.
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:41 PM
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Once the Fungi King was solo'd it's kinda like we got a new king. The monk King.
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:43 PM
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True, but the number of clickies used including puppet string pet were insane, in addition to his BIS gear.

It was considered a big deal when he soloed Seb Crypt, whereas shaman do it all the time. And I've never heard of a monk soloing a WW dragon or even an ice burrower like any epic druid can manage. Soloing in Kael and HS and the big league stuff in PoM like charm classes is also pretty much off limits right?

Monks are definitely the strongest solo melee, but I think the Luclin/PoP mitigation nerf was seriously misguided. Basically no one even bothers to play monk on p2002.

Edit: as far as MT'ing and aggro, it is perfectly viable for group content but not raids. Just have someone cast root and stand the closest.
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:49 PM
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Necromancers are the true kings of EQ.; If you disagree then you are wrong/mentally handicapped. ALL HAIL THE SKELETON KING
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Old 09-07-2019, 08:14 PM
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Well I know there are some INSANE monk only items out there...I don't remember names but ive seen items non-bp that have 65 AC on them and other insane stats...imagine if a monk has EVERY single piece of these pieces of gear...his AC on an Iksar will be insane and hps too...
No amount of hp or ac will close the gap that is defensive disc (unless were talkin like 2k extra hp but monks dont get they they almost always have less
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Old 09-07-2019, 08:19 PM
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There is nothing that can match a 35% damage reduction for 3 minutes that is on a 10 minute cool down. It's so stupidly out of character for how discs work for every other class that it really makes me wonder WTF Verant/Sony was thinking... It doesn't make sense how out of line it is with every other Disc even in the slightest.

EDIT: Add to that that SK and Pal dont get it and it REALLY makes no sense
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