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Old 09-30-2019, 11:43 AM
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If the only way they’ll play is if classic changes are rolled back: I do.
For the record, while I'm too lazy to find the specific quote, Nilbog has said basically this.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:44 AM
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If the only way they’ll play is if classic changes are rolled back: I do.
You want to see them leave the server, if they want to leave the server? I guess I agree
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:44 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I personally don't want to see people leave the server.
Me neither (okay, well maybe some of them), but if given the choice of people subverting the purpose of the project or those people leaving, then I'm afraid I am going to have to choose the integrity of the project.


If someone else makes a reputable vanilla only server, but fills it with more user friendly amenities then I'd probably give it a shot! But that is just not what p1999 is about...
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:45 AM
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If the only way they’ll play is if classic changes are rolled back: I do.
You cannot entertain the demands of terrorists. Everything changes once you do that.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:46 AM
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I'm not sure the integrity of the server is at stake.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:47 AM
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I implore the staff to stick to their vision and ignore those who would play moon cats if given half a chance.

I mean, don't the rest of you ever just get bored? I see changes like this and I'm excited to see how we will adjust to the new restrictions and manage to play without the old crutch. I guess if you are a hyper power gaming min/max bard/chanter type of guy this is just rage inducing or something.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:50 AM
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I implore the staff to stick to their vision and ignore those who would play moon cats if given half a chance.

I mean, don't the rest of you ever just get bored? I see changes like this and I'm excited to see how we will adjust to the new restrictions and manage to play without the old crutch. I guess if you are a hyper power gaming min/max bard/chanter type of guy this is just rage inducing or something.
You think because people don't want to have to fumble click mobs that they want instanced raids* and whatever other garbage came in the later expansions? I don't think people on the other side of your argument are asking for that. I certainly am not.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:53 AM
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I implore the staff to stick to their vision.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:54 AM
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You think because people don't want to have to fumble click mobs that they want instanced raids* and whatever other garbage came in the later expansions? I don't think people on the other side of your argument are asking for that. I certainly am not.
I think he is referring to the fact that THIS is where it starts. One quality of life change is where it all starts to fall apart.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:55 AM
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The most important contributng factor to classic feeling is POPULATION. There are still thousands of people in 2019 who are willing to play this 1999 game. Some of the reasons undoubtfully are the little QoL features we have.

For instance, I don't think we'd get ~1000 peak population on Blue, if we were forced to play with the Stone UI in 800x600 at 5-10 FPS. This was classic, though. We'd probably lose even more population if mouse zoom out was deactivated (probably next on the list...). Then some more if full-screen became mandatory. And so on.

Do we want to end up on a server where only 30-50 die-hard "shit's classic" afficionados are playing? Probably not. I'm sure the devs do care about population (yes, despite what some of them said at one point).

Nothing is sadder than empty EQ zones. Try Red today to get a feel of what Blue could be if the classicness continues to be applied without discrimination.

Imagine visiting a place you've spent great holidays at, when you were a kid. You come back and take a nostalgic stroll around, maybe even spend holidays there again with the family you have now.
Suddenly you remember that you had terrible allergies back then. Will you at any point say "I wish I had the allergies again so I can truly relive that moment"? Of course not.

Please leave the NPC/PC cycling, mouse zoom, and whatever other things you guys have the itch to remove on Blue. Do it on Green, just like OP suggested. Everyone will be happy. The hardcore classic nuts will be happy on Green, filthy casuals will have the Blue haven where they can get their EQ fix.
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