new patch ench charm

[Blingx]

Originally Posted by choklo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't count how many times dark blue charmed mobs have broken charm after a 1-2 mintues(or less) at higher levels.

I hope this nerf affects druids and bards too, but even so, it hurts the enchanter much more:

I chuckled at this.

The higher bard charm already has a duration of 12-18ish sec if you are lucky. Though I have not tested bard charm to see if this does indeed affect them, assuming it did we would be seeing duration of 0-6s possibly. Baseless finger pointing makes the rest of the claim, well, baseless.

On the other hand, going by
"higher levels won't have cruise control to xp" - Uthgaard
my thought would be this doesn't affect bards because this was not the case for us.

[ziahh]

have to take into account that when charm broke you have in fact 2 mob on you to get rid off...with my 1100hp and cloth i will die 50% of the time when that happen and my pet have 67% haste .../shout dead man walking !

[Popt]

protip: use rune

[choklo]

Originally Posted by Popt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

protip: use rune

OMG! Problem solved! :/

[ammut]

Originally Posted by ziahh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have to take into account that when charm broke you have in fact 2 mob on you to get rid off...with my 1100hp and cloth i will die 50% of the time when that happen and my pet have 67% haste .../shout dead man walking !

Don't you see something wrong with being able to solo with a 67% hasted mob that DW for 150dmg a pop?

[choklo]

Originally Posted by ammut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't you see something wrong with being able to solo with a 67% hasted mob that DW for 150dmg a pop?

If charm hardly broke, yes. The way it is now, charm breaks often and enchanters don't have the kiting abilities of druids and bards. It also takes a long time for the charm spell to cast. If you recall, our two stuns were destroyed in the last patch, making recharming much more dangerous.

[Popt]

Originally Posted by choklo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If charm hardly broke, yes. The way it is now, charm breaks often and enchanters don't have the kiting abilities of druids and bards. It also takes a long time for the charm spell to cast. If you recall, our two stuns were destroyed in the last patch, making recharming much more dangerous.

Yes, Whirl was destroyed, however Color Slant is just as viable except the recast is longer. Tash > Color Slant > Charm makes it very easy to recharm. It only sucks if Color Slant resists

[Dach]

Nerfs that are not necessary and completely SUCK are certainly classic.

Well done.

[ziahh]

well last patch reduce the enchanter class ability to solo to almost zero. here a log of the last fight i had...

http://pastebin.com/WpUgFqez

recap here to make thing easier :

[Sun Apr 17 17:29:02 2011] Your Allure spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:29:38 2011] Your Allure spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:31:26 2011] Your Allure spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:32:02 2011] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:32:44 2011] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.

there might have more break in the log... and this is only 1 fight. i got screenshot that i can post that are as bad as this fight.

[ziahh]

well last patch reduce the enchanter class ability to solo to almost zero. here a log of the last fight i had...

recap at the bottom to speed shit a liltle.

http://pastebin.com/WpUgFqez

recap here to make thing easier :

[Sun Apr 17 17:29:02 2011] Your Allure spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:29:38 2011] Your Allure spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:31:26 2011] Your Allure spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:32:02 2011] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.
[Sun Apr 17 17:32:44 2011] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.

there might have more break in the log... and this is only 1 fight. i got screenshot that i can post that are as bad as this fight.