Any "Good" Shaman guides?

[keglo]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh. Unless you're like, kiting one mob towards the next you're going to pull, or you're going high effort and sitting briefly for med ticks while kiting, the mana you "save" on roots is probably a wash at best compared to the mana you "lose" by not sitting and medding as much.

The problem is that even when I DoT then Root then Med, at this level my DoT's do very little damage. I always end up having to melee them at least half of their health, which gets me way down on my health and mana. I'm in full banded armor too. Of course I am still using mostly rusty weapons except for the low level quest hammer you get in Halas, so that doesn't help either I'm sure.

[SewingMachine]

Originally Posted by keglo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is that even when I DoT then Root then Med, at this level my DoT's do very little damage. I always end up having to melee them at least half of their health, which gets me way down on my health and mana. I'm in full banded armor too. Of course I am still using mostly rusty weapons except for the low level quest hammer you get in Halas, so that doesn't help either I'm sure.

I found it better to debuff the mob and fight them. If you got full banded i would put together like 15p and buy a Fine Great Staff it has like .25 DPS which is great. Remember slow attack speeds spells are the best debuff in the game. I would throw that on them and just fight it out and heal your self I think that would be better then root rotting at 16. As our dmg spells really arnt great at lower lvls.

[keglo]

Originally Posted by SewingMachine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I found it better to debuff the mob and fight them. If you got full banded i would put together like 15p and buy a Fine Great Staff it has like .25 DPS which is great. Remember slow attack speeds spells are the best debuff in the game. I would throw that on them and just fight it out and heal your self I think that would be better then root rotting at 16. As our dmg spells really arnt great at lower lvls.

Thanks for the advice. So use Drowsy or Walking Sleep or both? Do they stack?

I will certainly look for A FS Great Staff. I' suppose I'll also need an FS Spear and FS Morning Star also if I want to continue raising all three skills.

[Berendar]

Originally Posted by keglo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is that even when I DoT then Root then Med, at this level my DoT's do very little damage. I always end up having to melee them at least half of their health, which gets me way down on my health and mana. I'm in full banded armor too. Of course I am still using mostly rusty weapons except for the low level quest hammer you get in Halas, so that doesn't help either I'm sure.

What level are you?

Edit: Ah 16 OK well I've found that the melee miss rates for Shaman on Green, for whatever reason, seem higher than blue (although this could just be the effect of everything feeling harder as we are not twinked). I used to melee on all my Shaman on blue even into the 50's but have found root/rotting to be more efficient, even with the low level DOT's. I even bought a Combine weapon and have hardly used it.

At your level the Karana's are your playground unless you want to group in dungeons. East Karana for the gorge hounds, gnolls, dark stalkers, war hounds, griffawns etc. Then you could move onto Crag Spiders. Also North Karana is good for the beetles such as borer etc.

Hang with it til 24 as your gameplay changes a lot when you get Cannibalise.

[Velerin]

I was referring to shammy in the teens killing reds/yellows. If you tried rooting them they’d just break all the time and waste all mana. Full speed kite with low level dots with no dot reduction is nice.

[keglo]

Originally Posted by Velerin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was referring to shammy in the teens killing reds/yellows. If you tried rooting them they’d just break all the time and waste all mana. Full speed kite with low level dots with no dot reduction is nice.

I'm confused. I thought there was DoT damage reduction while moving.

Also, I went to EC looking for a FS Great Staff. So far no luck. Anyone know of any vendors that might sell it or a mob I can Kill at level 16 that drops it!

[Man0warr]

DoT damage movement reduction isn't active on Green/Teal until a later date.

[Jimjam]

Buy a two handed warhammer from vendor or blacksmith instead?

[greenspectre]

As most said, you're best melee'ing with some DoT damage support at your level. Once you hit 19 you get Affliction and Infectious Cloud. Pick up both. You can start Root/Rotting once you have these- Cast IC at a distance so you don't hit yourself with it, then stack the other 2 (TB and Affliction) and you'll finally have decent dps for root/rotting. I did a couple levels in Lavastorm at the Najena zoneline but other places work too.

Things obviously get much better at 24.

[keglo]

Originally Posted by greenspectre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As most said, you're best melee'ing with some DoT damage support at your level. Once you hit 19 you get Affliction and Infectious Cloud. Pick up both. You can start Root/Rotting once you have these- Cast IC at a distance so you don't hit yourself with it, then stack the other 2 (TB and Affliction) and you'll finally have decent dps for root/rotting. I did a couple levels in Lavastorm at the Najena zoneline but other places work too.

Things obviously get much better at 24.

Originally Posted by Berendar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What level are you?

Edit: Ah 16 OK well I've found that the melee miss rates for Shaman on Green, for whatever reason, seem higher than blue (although this could just be the effect of everything feeling harder as we are not twinked). I used to melee on all my Shaman on blue even into the 50's but have found root/rotting to be more efficient, even with the low level DOT's. I even bought a Combine weapon and have hardly used it.

At your level the Karana's are your playground unless you want to group in dungeons. East Karana for the gorge hounds, gnolls, dark stalkers, war hounds, griffawns etc. Then you could move onto Crag Spiders. Also North Karana is good for the beetles such as borer etc.

Hang with it til 24 as your gameplay changes a lot when you get Cannibalise.

Thank you everyone for all the great advice. I'll hang around in EC until I find a weapon and then head out to, probably one of the Karana's, and start following some of this advice.