Camp Check

[DMN]

I just wish people would read the damn PnP rules. 90% of the time I have a camp dispute the guy has absolutely no idea what he is talking about yet claims he knows the rules and *I* should read them.

i also don't enforce the whle dying/zonng/camping making you lose camp -- as long as you are able to get back in time to clear the PHin a reasonable time frame (2-3 mins), I'm fine with it. I think those rules are stupid, other than maybe the dying one.

[Modwolf]

In turn I don't call out CC until I'm at the camp. Early CC can alert competition to claim it first.

[Uuruk]

You guys have a sickness

[Siege]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys have a sickness

Pixothelioma

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by French Wizard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Link some of the videos you made of yourself playing everquest

I don't have any

[bum3]

I've noticed a lot of ppl calling camps in CC.. like a group will have each person call out a different camp. And then you see a lvl 50 running around single pulling the nameds or PHs to that group which is sitting in a far corner of the zone. It's like 7 ppl in zone.. everything's camped? Wut?

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've noticed a lot of ppl calling camps in CC.. like a group will have each person call out a different camp. And then you see a lvl 50 running around single pulling the nameds or PHs to that group which is sitting in a far corner of the zone. It's like 7 ppl in zone.. everything's camped? Wut?

That's plainly illegal. It's not one spawn point or camp per person. It's one spawn point or camp per group. You can have a group of one or six, doesn't matter.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's plainly illegal. It's not one spawn point or camp per person. It's one spawn point or camp per group. You can have a group of one or six, doesn't matter.

Actually while I'm no GM, my personal opinion as the compiler of the Camp Rules page is ... that's actually sort of questionable. The Play Nice Policies do say:

Note: A "party" in this case is defined as a party of one or more characters that are united in a common belief or goal and are capable of completing that goal.

Clearly, that supports the idea that a group of 6 = 1 soloer, for all Camp Rules purposes.

But the PnP also says:

While by no means an all-inclusive list of the do's and dont's on Project 1999

In other words GM fiat trumps that page [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And when you realize that, you realize there's a massive "gray area" between the Play Nice Policies/Camp Rules and actual GM practice.

Consider the case of Sebilis Crypt. The staff has established that each room counts as a separate camp, so if a soloer is doing Crypt when a group shows up, that soloer has to pick one room to keep, and the group can't touch it.

But now consider the reverse: a group is doing Crypt, and a soloer wants in. By the "group = soloer" logic, the group has to let them, and should only get to keep one room. But in practice, I think there's a strong possibility a GM would let them keep not only all four rooms, but quite possibly also Emp and Blood (ie. the whole "CE" or Crypt/Emp camp).

If they did, and you forced them to justify the decision, I think they'd argue that in some sense, for the purpose of holding NPCs down, the group can "weigh differently" than an individual. But until they answer the question in a forum post, we'll never know.

[Totino]

People who CC are annoying. Ignore them.

I want to camp something, I go check by myself. If it's open I take over. Someone wants to whine about it? I don't mind

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by Totino [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who CC are annoying. Ignore them.

I want to camp something, I go check by myself. If it's open I take over. Someone wants to whine about it? I don't mind

I try to not ignore camp checks because I try to be a curteous, empathetic player in a game where resources are scarce and need to be shared. I feel like it's very easy to act autistic and like a selfish jerk I'm this game unneccessarily so I strive to not do that whenever possible.