Paladin Tanking

[RiffDaemon]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, we've been trying to get Trimm to join for ages.

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[Wizard]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One question I have about paladin tanking: I understand they use their 3 stuns to generate most of their aggro. Now the maximum target level for these stuns is 55, how do they generate aggro vs 56+ targets aside from their (low compared to other classes) dps and taunt button?

Petitpas/Nagash

Well taunt has been changed to not effect any 50+ mob - So with your spells you are at an advantage over a warrior for group tanking. Most of the mobs youll be fighting even at level 60 will not be above 55 so for the most part you will do just fine. If you look at the mob list in say Seb you will find the majority of the mobs levels being 52-53

[falkun]

Just because the stun fails, does not mean aggro is not generated. Stuns still generate a boatload of threat even if they are resisted/immune. Finally, what mobs are paladins tanking (read: not raid Main Targets) that are 55+ regularly?

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by falkun

Finally, what mobs are paladins tanking (read: not raid Main Targets) that are 55+ regularly?

Juggs

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Juggs

So...1 camp in a game of hundreds (if not thousands) of camps. Also, the juggs still hate pallies that stun them, even if its immune. I fail to see the problem with stun aggro.

With regard to the original question, it is almost expected for a Paladin to tank with a 2H. The only reason to tank with a shield is for the extra AC. AC is underrated in most people's eyes. A Sarnak Battle shield is 25AC, which is quite a bit for a single piece.

However, in raids if you are just "lol-dps" then use a 2H, they typically have much better DPS (even though all paladin dps is laughable, welcome to bard-land!).

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by falkun

So...1 camp in a game of hundreds (if not thousands) of camps. Also, the juggs still hate pallies that stun them, even if its immune. I fail to see the problem with stun aggro.

never said paladins suck at tanking Juggs... merely providing info about 55+ mobs than are tanked outside a raid setting.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

never said paladins suck at tanking Juggs... merely providing info about 55+ mobs than are tanked outside a raid setting.

Fair enough. The point of the question though was to express the opinion (fact?) that paladins are not instantly gimp at tanking targets above level 55 due to stun-immunity, and that even if it were an issue, it would not be relevant for 99% of the grouping game.

[Fromage]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough. The point of the question though was to express the opinion (fact?) that paladins are not instantly gimp at tanking targets above level 55 due to stun-immunity, and that even if it were an issue, it would not be relevant for 99% of the grouping game.

Yup, even stun immune mobs still get all pissy when you cast it on them.

[Doors]

nm think I posted a link to a vamped chardok item.

[Nagash]

I never played a tank in any MMO and was wondering about stun's aggro generating capability as mobs above 55 are not affected by the paladin's and I understand they use it to generate most of their aggro. Glad to hear that the aggro is still generated despite resists/immunities.

Back in the day, I remember seeing some paladins main tanking raids (some sk also) and was wondering how they did it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And about level 55+ camps, there might not be a lot in Kunark but the server will go up to Velious where we will see more (Kael for example). Ok, Velious won't be here for a while but it will be here at some point [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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