Hybird spells

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway, all of these arguments about "it's not a custom server" are annoying. Yes, it is. P1999 as it exists is not an exact replica of real EQ at any point during it's history. There were many different versions of classic EQ to begin with. Most of you can't even seem to remember the exact specifics of classic EQ. It would be best for everyone to subtly shape the game to provide the best experience possible for what EQ should be in 2011.

If you want a druid pet so bad, get a mistwalker.

[Nagash]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes it did, I remember specifically.

Anyway, all of these arguments about "it's not a custom server" are annoying. Yes, it is. P1999 as it exists is not an exact replica of real EQ at any point during it's history. There were many different versions of classic EQ to begin with. Most of you can't even seem to remember the exact specifics of classic EQ. It would be best for everyone to subtly shape the game to provide the best experience possible for what EQ should be in 2011.

Rogean and the team are trying as hard as they can to recreate EQ as it was initially, not how it should be in 2011. Don't like it? Easy, you have 3 solutions:
- take a sub to EQ Live
- make your own server on EQ Emu if you think you can make a better replica of EQ as it was in 99
- go to post in Rant and Raves

I read a lot of frustration in your post because the server is not like how you want it to be. Bear in mind that it is just how 900+ other persons want it to be, most importantly, it is how Nilborg, Rogean and the team want it to be.

It is not the best experience for you? I am sorry to read that but will gladly show you the way out. It is a blast for me and the others.

By the way, next time remember two things:
1) Get your facts straight before you post, if you're not sure, at least say it
2) Rogean and Co spend 10's of hours of their personal time, that is time away from their day job, away from their families and friends to try to give us the best possible experience. For Heaven's sake, Rogean was awake all night last night to try to sort out some issues caused by a failure at the server homing centre, none of which was his fault. Do you think he didn't have to show at work today? In light of all of this, trying to go against the very essence of what they are trying to do is vcery disrespectful.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes it did, I remember specifically.

Anyway, all of these arguments about "it's not a custom server" are annoying. Yes, it is. P1999 as it exists is not an exact replica of real EQ at any point during it's history. There were many different versions of classic EQ to begin with. Most of you can't even seem to remember the exact specifics of classic EQ. It would be best for everyone to subtly shape the game to provide the best experience possible for what EQ should be in 2011.

A common misunderstanding of how the server works.

The stuff that isn't classic isn't like that because the devs decided to make it be that way. It's because they start with a product that isn't classic at all, and over time turn it as classic as possible. If they could push a button and make it 100% classic, they would. They can't though, they have to meticulously code it, which takes time, which means some elements that aren't classic stay in longer than others (and some elements can't even be changed)

The goal, the target, is classic EQ. Any proposed custom changes are contradictory to that goal, and as such, wont be implemented.

[mwatt]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes it did, I remember specifically.

Anyway, all of these arguments about "it's not a custom server" are annoying. Yes, it is. P1999 as it exists is not an exact replica of real EQ at any point during it's history. There were many different versions of classic EQ to begin with. Most of you can't even seem to remember the exact specifics of classic EQ. It would be best for everyone to subtly shape the game to provide the best experience possible for what EQ should be in 2011.

It will be as close as is possible to the original Classic experience. Achieving this goal is limited in some cases by lack of information, in other cases by time requirements. Once you start down the slippery slope of "subtly shaping", you have diverged from the mission plan and it won't be possible to stop. That isn't what this server is about (god bless the devs) and not what 99% of us want to see happen.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't happen before Luclin (or maybe even later) so will never be on the server.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes it did, I remember specifically.

I assume you are talking about when they tried to improve the experience for lower level players by lowering the spell levels of rez/corpse summon/lesser succor? If so, you are wrong. This happened months after luclin. Try researching instead of 'remembering.'

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I assume you are talking about when they tried to improve the experience for lower level players by lowering the spell levels of rez/corpse summon/lesser succor? If so, you are wrong. This happened months after luclin. Try researching instead of 'remembering.'

That's not what I am talking about at all. During CLASSIC era there was a specific buff to ALL of the Hybrids' spell lists. I can't remember if it happened after Kunark or after Velious, but it was one of the 4 changes I talked about a few pages back that were made over the course of Classic to improve the Hybrids' spellcasting such that it was actually useful. If you do an Internet Archive search for Caster's Realm, you will probably find it.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean and the team are trying as hard as they can to recreate EQ as it was initially, not how it should be in 2011.

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The goal, the target, is classic EQ. Any proposed custom changes are contradictory to that goal, and as such, wont be implemented.

There is no such thing as replicating the exact classic EQ from 1999-2001 in 2011. We, the player base, know far too much about the game and that drastically alters how we play it in comparison to 1999-2001. IF the Everquest of 1999-2001 had continued on to this day, I'm 100% sure that there would have been plenty of changes to improve the QUALITY and the playing experience of the game. Any change I suggest is along those lines.

As for "any proposed changes are contradictory to that goal", then why are the developers constantly entertaining notions of altering the game to provide a further experience from what existed pre-Luclin? I very much appreciate what they are doing but I believe they will have to eventually think about making alterations to p1999, if they haven't already, such that it is classic EQ but with further modifications that the ORIGINAL GAME DESIGNERS (following their original vision and not their $$$ vision) would have likely carried out themselves to improve (re)playability and fix existing issues.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of which, the Charm Animal spells should have been better for Druids and Rangers (Shaman should not get the line at all). I believe those spells should turn the charmed animal into a permanent pet, until it dies or you leave the zone. This would have to be balanced so that characters can't charm overly powerful pets in comparison to their level. It doesn't make sense that the animals should only befriend you for a short, random duration and then attack you when it wears off. This game was based upon D&D and that really goes against the entire flavor of Druids and Rangers.

What? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This isn't a custom EQ server.
And if you want to talk about proper roleplaying, druids shouldn't be allowed to kill any animals without completely loosing faction with their guild hall or deity or something. Let's start with that if you want to get technical. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Deathrydar]

What's a hybird?

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's a hybird?

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Just add a couple swords...